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Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
Community Manager
Kevin J. Monahan Jr.Community Manager
Community Manager
February 21, 2025
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Improve the dialog box that warns that static transcriptions do not support text-based editing

  • February 21, 2025
  • 6 replies
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Hi Community,

I got the idea from @PaulMurphy who agrees that this issue comes up a lot. What do you think @Stan Jones  Any other ideas? Any other common issues that can be solved with a simple warning?

 

For others wanting this feature, please upvote!

 

Cheers,

Kevin

 

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    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
    Community Manager
    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.Community ManagerAuthor
    Community Manager
    February 25, 2025

    Hello all,

    Sorry for the hasty request. I changed the title slightly to see if the dialog box or the issue, in general, can be improved. I think that may describe the problem better.

     

    Cheers,
    Kevin

     

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
    Community Manager
    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.Community ManagerAuthor
    Community Manager
    February 24, 2025

    Thanks, @mattchristensen,

    I think it may be a good idea to change this feature request to "improve the static text warning dialog box" since the dialog box already exists.

     

    I think users who are new to text workflows might not be aware of the difference between static and dynamic text workflows, and they have troubles, especially if they have not read feature notes.

     

    The dialog box is there as a stopgap, but the confusion sometimes remains. Neil may have something there about the dialog box being too verbose. I like the idea of additional coach marks. More enablement, demos, and tips posts here might help too if they were more pervasive in the wider community.

     

    I like Colin Smith's video, as well. He brings up a few small points about why this confuses users new to the text workflows.

     

     

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    February 21, 2025

    Matt,

     

    Thanks for popping in as always! You are such a practical person to work with.

     

    From seeing so  many posts here and on other forums, my thoughts are that the warning as-is is fine ... if one is clear about the complete differences between static and normal transcription.

     

    However, many users still don't catch that important difference. How to make a more clear warning without it being 20 lines of dense information ... yea, that's always the case, right?

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
      mattchristensen
      mattchristensen
      Legend
      February 21, 2025

      I would be happy to advocate with our team to make improvements here, but I have to admit it sounds like these suggestions are things that already exist in Premiere Pro. There are two states an editor might be in where we put in specific UI to try to help them out:

       

      First, every sequence starts out as a "Text-Based Editing" sequence for purposes of transcription. This means that as you edit in clips, the transcripts attached to the source clips automatically stitch together to form the dynamic sequence transcript. We believe this is the right default for most people.

       

      If some or all of your clips are not transcribed, you will see an alert banner at the top of the transcript saying "# source clips have not been transcribed" with a big blue "Transcribe" button. You can even twirl open that banner and de-select any clips you may not want transcribed:

      In this way, we try to guide editors towards creating the source transcripts they need to use Text-Based Editing successfully. As you can see the empty state text in this case even says "Transcribe your source clips to view your sequence transcript."

       

      Second, there is the question of an editor understanding that if they manually switch to a static transcription that the transcript no longer updates as they edit. As @Stan Jones pointed out, we've had a dialog warning about that from the very beginning. It says rather clearly (in my opinion) "Your transcript will not update as you edit".

       

      Given these two mitigations that have been in place since Text-Based Editing has been released, what modifications or additions are actually being suggested here @Kevin-Monahan @R Neil Haugen ?

        Stan Jones
        Community Expert
        Stan JonesCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        February 21, 2025

        @Kevin-Monahan,

         

        Here's the current dialog with the warning that I think has always been here - 3 dot menu from transcript tab/Generate Static Transcript. You get the same thing whether there is already a source media transcript based sequence transcript or not. It could add something like "If you want to use text-based editing, generate transcripts from the source media."

         

        The problem, of course, is that there is a steep learning curve, and the current warning is not strong enough if you don't understand the differences between "will not update," and "static," how they relate to text-based editing, and whether you already have source media transcripts.

         

         

        Stan

         

         

        R Neil Haugen
        R Neil Haugen
        Legend
        February 21, 2025

        Definitely.

        Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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