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Inspiring
January 24, 2023
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Make the Essential Graphics interface options flexible & robust (Folders)

  • January 24, 2023
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make the Essential Graphics browser flexible: sorting, icon or text, import .mogrt folders, mort folder organizing on the desktop will appea

159 replies

Inspiring
January 24, 2023
The ability to save and use .mogrt on networks. To be able to set up a templates folder wherever you would like. This would enable teams to be able to access the template across multiple users.
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
Please bring back a way to view essential graphic with folders.

This is not a good way to organize this unless you are trying to appeal to beginners who don't know how to create or import their own graphic.
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
From reading all the above feedback it would appear Adobe does not understand the importance and implications of what is happening with its clients.

I am an ACI taking a class for a major broadcast client in Australia on Friday. I've just received their style guide referring to importing FOLDERS of .mogrt templates which have been set up in FOLDERS in the pre-April version - a simple process to set up, import and use.

They have recently 'upgraded' (downgrade) to 12.1.1 which no longer allows for this feature. I now have the diabolical task of trying to help them find a solution.

In three shows alone, they have hundreds of templates, grouped into over 20 folders for different programs and social media! Inside each program folder are specific templates but with names like 2x3 Letterbox. They HAVE to use folders to keep all the variations sorted into the correct program categories.

This 'update' has been out for over two months and STILL not been addressed. Don't patronise us by sending us to another link that 'addresses this problem' so you can close this thread. PLEASE follow up with the 'other' department instead of making us run around in constant circles doing your job for you.

BTway, adding tags and keywords does not work and is a ridiculous, time consuming 'solution' to fix a problem caused by Adobe's lack of vision.

I'd also like to know who these 'users' were who suggested the interface felt outdated. As an ACI for 5 Adobe products, I certainly have NEVER been asked for my opinion on any new features or asked for feature requests. Along with my hundreds of students, I have certainly made many (and repeated) Feature Requests - only one of which has ever been implemented.

James Stawn's instructions on how to export from AE and other suggestions for 'solutions' is ridiculous. Do you REALLY expect people to go through such convoluted work arounds for all their existing templates which are used across entire organisations. Do you have ANY idea how long this would take - to fix something that was working perfectly in the previous version.

This whole mess smacks of a repeat of the Adobe evasion tactics to cloud the issue, as when the new Cache-ing system implemented in April 2017 ended in disastrous consequences for many clients.

On the plus side, some of the new updates to Essential Graphics, eg. finally allowing multiple graphic layer selection and alignment (long overdue) work well - but not well enough to make up for the hours and hours of grief this one omission is causing.
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
Not having the option to arrange the templates by folder is confusing for a beginner working with Adobe Classroom in a Book (considering this is a certified Adobe book). I thought something was wrong with my program initially and it took me an hour to realize it was something on your end and not mine. This is a bad tweak to premiere considering how organized you are with other functions in premiere as well as other Adobe programs
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
Madness...Adobe tried to solve a problem that didn't exist to begin with on this one! To try and create a UI without folder options is about like trying to create words without vowels. Admit the mistake and fix the issue please. Thanks!
Participant
January 24, 2023
I'd like to add to the requests for a return to a folder structure - the specific sub-sets of templates we require for our clients makes navigating with the new implementation much harder than it used to be. Being able to have folder structures specific to each client's needs helped reduce the cognitive load of figuring out what terms to search for and then actually searching.

The tagging system is a useful addition as secondary navigation, but there is a significant piece of work require to go through, identify and tag our existing templates. I cannot seem to find a way to apply tags to multiple templates at once, so the workload here is increased again.


The tagging etc will be useful, but I would much prefer folder and list to be available as a primary navigation method.

Cheers,

Mike
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
The search did not work for me. I have many graphics that just say Lower Third and all of them were put into a specific show folder. The folder name that I had does not come up in the search query. Please just give us back the folders and let us organize them our own way!
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
Wow you guys - this is unworkable and astoundingly BAD UX. Like David said - please use your products before releasing an update. The thinking behind this one was super-flawed, backwards, and LAME. It puts those awful, f'ugly 'templates-you-never-want-to-use' front and center. Please never do that again.
Procrastinator
Participating Frequently
January 24, 2023
Ok so I could upload individual .mogrt files through the software, but only one by one. And the pack I just bought has 305 of them.

So this is my personal work around. It seems incredibly stupid, but it works.

I went on this very useful tool through http://joshcluderay.com/downgrade-premiere-project-converter/. Thank you Josh !

You downgrade your current project version with this tool, then use creative cloud to install the previous version of Adobe Premiere Pro. Then you reopen the downgraded version of your project in the "new" older version, and the folders are back with everything looking pretty like it used to and most of all, well, workable.

Hope that helps anyone since - well - it helped me.

I must say having to do this kind of stuff, with all the anxiety of a deadline and the dead-eye look of the client over your shoulder is maybe something the Adobe team should be concerned about when making new versions... And maybe, if that doesn't sound too much of a task, actually try the software before releasing it. Have yourself some kind of external editor-team looking out for us and try it before it fails.

And since I'm in Belgium, and this pretty much ruined my Saturday night. I'm going to grab myself a Beer, with a capital B, like Brussels.

Cheers
Procrastinator
Participating Frequently
January 24, 2023
Can't access recently installed .mogrt files in the essential graphics panel. Only captions and titles appear. They seem to be installed correctly since I see my files correctly through the MacOs finder in the essential graphics folder. But no access to them through the software.

Is that even possible ?