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January 24, 2023
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Make the Essential Graphics interface options flexible & robust (Folders)

make the Essential Graphics browser flexible: sorting, icon or text, import .mogrt folders, mort folder organizing on the desktop will appea

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Inspiring
January 24, 2023
I just don’t understand the refusal and pushback from Adobe against the users on this. We need a folder option for our workflows!

Similar to Annette Rays (from 2 years ago!) my group is using hundreds of .mogrt files for some shows and within that some we have a choice to use and some we don’t. So it would be really, really useful if we could say have a main folder for each show, then sub folders for things we can choose from and things we can’t like the main body and lower thirds for example. .mogrt files are great and we love them, but it’s becoming to unwieldy sometimes to practically use in the current form.

But for some reason we seem to just be told to use the hamburger menu that doesn’t let us sub-folder things and in the end just makes a list so long it’s no more clear to use than the regular mess. I work with 6 other editor and all of us just want a folder structure we can tailor to our individual workflows here. And we shouldn’t have to rely on a 3rd part plugin that you have to register for and may or may not work after each update for a workaround.

Just please give us the freedom to organize the essential graphics panel they way that works best for each of us… and yea that’s a folder option!
DaciaSaenz
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 24, 2023
Oh one more thing, Jeanette...
Another alternative to return to having a more traditional folder structure is to install Premiere Composer.

Mr. Horse makes this really rad free plug-in that comes with a ton of free Mogrts, but most importantly has a panel that organizes your content, including Mogrts into a more traditional folder structure.

Mr. Horse is an incredible 3rd-party developer and has a long track record of making complimentary tools for After Effects and Premiere Pro.

Hope this helps!

https://misterhorse.com/premiere-composer

https://youtu.be/CPgSPWIw1Qk

Cheers,
Dacia
- Dacia Saenz, AE & PR Engineering Teams
DaciaSaenz
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 24, 2023
Hi Jeanette,

This is a totally valid place to come to for clarity on your sorting options, and I'm happy to help offer a few tips to help you get back on track. We try to help on these threads as often as we can.

When you download or license a mogrt from the Essential Graphics Panel in Premiere Pro, a copy of those mogrts get stored in your Local Templates Folder. These are visible in the Browse tab when you filter by "Local."

The best advice I can give you though is to sort that view by "Recent." There is a little icon at the bottom of the Esential Graphics Panel in the middle that allows you to sort by Alphabetical or Recent. I find this to be super helpful.

If you want to find the actual .mogrt files on disk, the folder is here:
On Mac: /username/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Common/Motion Graphics Templates

On Win: /Users/username/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/Common/Motion Graphics Templates


Alternatively, if you want to keep things managed even further, you can use the "Manage Additional Folders" option in the hamburger menu of the EGP. This allows you to move collections of Mogrts into specific folders and create custom pathways to those folders, locally or on a server.

It might be more helpful to download the Mogrts from the Adobe Stock website on a browser and choose where you want your files downloaded to if you go this route.

Lastly, you can always save your licensed Mogrts to a CC Library and manage collections in that manner as well.

Hope that is helpful and that you can get back on track.

Cheers,
Dacia
- Dacia Saenz, AE & PR Engineering Teams
aTomician
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
jeanette jones - sounds like a whole separate conversation, not sure why you are raising that in this thread? Try checking the CC libraries within apps if you bought it in creative cloud, or if you bought from a third party website, check your downloads folder. Either way, maybe do some more research, and if it's still a problem, raise a new support ticket / feature request so that your request gets the attention it deserves. Posting on a random thread rarely gets you anywhere.
Regards, aTomician
Mini j
Participant
January 24, 2023
URGENT: I require a folder where I can clearly see where my essential graphic Adobe Stock Templates are stored so I can access them for both video and audio for use in Premier Pro. Currently when I want to purchase or download a free or paid Essential Graphic template, I don't know where it is being stored so I can use it. I have a full Creative Cloud Adobe Pro membership. I click the download button and can't see the download. I have gone to the commons folder and nothing is there.

Please assist ASAP.

jjarty08@gmail.com

Jeanette Jones
+61 439 521 366
Known Participant
January 24, 2023
Hi Mike and Dacia,

Thank you for your prompt replies!

I didn't know about those keyboard shortcuts, so thank you for letting me know. It seems extremely odd however that the arrow keys (and Shift+arrow keys) can't simply be used, since after all the arrow keys DO work for nudging clips, pictures and even entire EG titles when selected in the Program Monitor!

Not allowing individual EG title elements to be nudged with the same arrow or Shift+arrow keys breaks this convention and makes it inconsistent with the way users are used to nudging everything else in Pr (and other Adobe programs for that matter!)

While I appreciate the availability of keyboard shortcuts, resorting to new, separate shortcuts vs the existing ones users are used to is very inconvenient since it forces users to assign and remember new shortcuts when they really shouldn't have to.

I really do wish more thought was put in by the Pr team when designing new tools since time and time again they fall short of expectations due to appears to be incomprehensible lapses in basic 101 logic, such as the botched keyboard shortcuts for toggling off Lumetri Color effects (doesn't work in full screen since the Lumetri panel needs to be selected!) and the Remove Gaps shortcut that nonsensically doesn't work properly whenever there's unselected media on other tracks, to name but a couple.

Doesn't more work go into testing before releasing to the public?
Mike, you wrote "We do not assign them to the arrow keys by default because that would interfere with stepping the playhead." That argument is nonsense IMO. Rather than offer new shortcuts that are mutually incompatible with current arrow key functions, as you point out, why not respect existing workflows and simply continue to allow arrow keys to function differently based on what the user is doing at that given moment?

It should be so simple and self evident:
EG layer(s) selected in Program Monitor = arrow keys move selected layer(s)
Nothing selected in Program Monitor = arrow keys act according to their shortcut assignments (move playhead forward/back, jump to previous/next edit, etc)

Why didn't the Pr team see the simplicity, logic and downright convenience for end users of those options above? Did the Pr team cop out on this one because it was easier to program this way, rather than putting in the work to make it work as users would hope/expect?

Sorry if I sound overly critical, but at some point users need to speak up and say enough with the nonsense already. 😞 BTW, I only speak up about this and so many other issues because I care more about Pr and seeing it work properly than most users ever will.
Adobe Employee
January 24, 2023
Hi Pierre -

The EGP/PGM has nudge for graphic layers. We do not assign them to the arrow keys by default because that would interfere with stepping the playhead. The default assignments are cmd-arrow for nudge 1 pixel and shift-cmd-arrow to nudge 5 pixels. You can reset these to whatever you want in the keyboard shortcut dialog though.

Mike
DaciaSaenz
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 24, 2023
Hi Pierre!

Good news! You CAN nudge individual layers and shapes made with the new Essential Graphics tool in Premiere and it's been possible for many releases now (maybe 2 years???)!

Open the Keyboard Shortcut editor to see all the various combos that allow you to nudge by 1 or 5 pixels. Feel free to change them to whatever makes you happiest too!

You can also arrange layers in the EGP layer stack with KBS too.

FIXED AS ASAP AS CAN BE!

Thanks,
Dacia
- Dacia Saenz, AE & PR Engineering Teams
Known Participant
January 24, 2023
Hi Dacia,

I want to add that not being able to nudge individual EG elements with the arrow keys when selected (blue bounding box) is a major, massive PITA. 😞

Why this wasn't introduced from the get go given that LT has had this ability for ages defies all logic and frankly is a huge disservice to Adobe's customers.

PLEASE fix this ASAP!
Thank you!
DaciaSaenz
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 24, 2023
Hi Nathaniel,

Are you familiar with the option in the hamburger menu of the EGP called "Manage Additional Folders"? It allows you to create to your own folders on disk or a server.This will create a dropdown menu that you can then filter your view by, and you manage the contents of those folders with Finder or Explorer. Just like you would any other folder.

Another alternative to return to the way it was is to install Premiere Composer.

Mr. Horse makes this really rad free plug-in that comes with a ton of free Mogrts, but most importantly has a panel that organizes your content, including Mogrts into a more traditional folder structure.

Mr. Horse is an incredible 3rd-party developer and has a long track record of making complimentary tools for After Effects and Premiere Pro.

Hope this helps!

https://misterhorse.com/premiere-composer

https://youtu.be/CPgSPWIw1Qk

Cheers,
Dacia
- Dacia Saenz, AE & PR Engineering Teams