More quick colour sliders in the video tab in the properties panel.

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ok, I get it, you needed to get rid of Lumetri cause its old technology and doesnt work very well with today standards.

But whatever lumetri lacked in precision gained in Speed. And Color is the slowest method I have ever came across! What made Lumetri faster and makes color slower?

1. Whether we like it or not sliders are FAST, not very precise but fast, with lumetri you could get the basic grading and exposure down in seconds. with color you have to move your mouse left/right/up/down, pick zones, and repeat and so on. Sliders do 1 thing and when its the thing you need you go at it and do your job.

2. API integration, where is it? every slider in lumetri had an API connection, so loupedeck or any midi device you have via PRcontrol could control lumetri and moving those sliders with knobs is a big boost in both speed and precision.

3. Lumetri is always there! Next to the timeline, no need for back and forth between pages to adjust highlights or whatever.

Now with the new color tab you added a few sliders in the video tab in the properties panel which is a step in the right direction, you just need to add more, at least the basic stuff, like shadow/Highlights, Midtone/shadow/highlight luminance and a normal standard curves! I dont understand why the cant coexist??
Also API integration for every slider!

In this way everybody who want speed can still edit and grade at the same time as before, which was one if not the best features of premiere and whoever wants to go deeper can go to the color page!

Lets not go back to lumetri, I believe you have the right idea, but for GOD SAKE! lets bring back lumetri flexibility and speed. Its premiere!

R Neil Haugen

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As one of the first private beta testers, my initial reaction over a year ago was this was a hot mess.

However … after more tools were added, and I learned how it is designed to work, and got adept at working two controls simultaneously with the mouse the way this goes … it’s dang near as fast as working with a control surface. FAR faster than Lumetri with a mouse.

First … set you mouse action for best control for you in the user controls. If you haven’t done that, do that first thing.

Second, when you have a good reaction speed to the controls, then get used to what it does on both axis … you will need to work this a bit with each control. Study the HUD while working the mouse, and if possible, have the image full screen on a monitor. Watch how the scope and the image react.

Quite a few of the private beta testers noted that after getting it down, they could quicklly work without looking at the scopes much … and these are people like me used to working from scopes.

Both the color sicience and speed are vastly improved over Lumetri when you know how it works, set it correctly for your ‘touch’, and get some practice at it.

I’ve taught color correction et al to pro colorists for years, work in Resolve and Premiere daily, and typically at my full Elements panel. This is way different, but … does some amazing things.

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demetrisagAuthor

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I am struggling to understand your answer to my request. I never asked for color tab to go away or lumetrinto come back. I asked for more sliders in the properties panel and API integration. Can you do that?

Color tab may be miles better than lumetri but sliders are miles better for quick edits NEXT to the timeline.

Maybe you like doing color correction at the end. I like to do quick corrections while I edit without having to go back and forth every time I want to raise or lower the highlights. Is it possible that we can have that as well? We already have sliders in the properties panel!

I am seriously struggling to understand your answer, it's like telling me you know better than me. Maybe you do, but you can't argue the flexibility of the quick edits the sliders bring NEXT to the timeline. Stop treating us like children that don't know what they want

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R Neil Haugen

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If they’d asked me, I’d have said it was STOOPID to remove the Lumetri panel at first publishing the new color ‘mode’. Personally, I’d have kept that through the entire 27.x build series.

But they didn’t ask me.

And they don’t tend to go back.

You probably haven’t been around long enough, but when SpeedGrade went EOL years ago, I made quite a series of detailed though polite rants here about the stupidity of that decision. But again, they didn’t like my opinion on that.

While I get along pretty well with a number of staffers at NAB, I’m also clearly not appreciated by a few other Adobe staffers. I’m rather direct and when I think something worthwhile say so. When it stinks to me, I say so, just as publicly. That’s not really a proper “corporate” attitude ...well, tough.

I am totally a practical person. What works works, and some things you can’t change. Like deprecation of the Lumetri panel. From long observance of Adobe decision behavior I would be stunned it that was changed. And again, I think it should still be there.

But as that ain’t likely to happen, it’s best to get on with learning the new system.

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