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January 24, 2023
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Remove auto-add audio tracks

  • January 24, 2023
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Currently, Premiere Pro adds audio tracks to a sequence whenever a file with more audio tracks than the sequence contains is opened in the Source Monitor. So, say I have a sequence with four audio tracks. If I open a clip in the Source Monitor that has 8, four more tracks are automatically added to the Sequence. This is behavior is fine for the auto-generation of NEW sequences, but frustrating in that it modifies an existing sequence with no user input whatsoever. The functionality for adding tracks, as well as source patching and track targeting, works fine, and this behavior is more of a bug than a feature.

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Participating Frequently
January 27, 2023
The problem I have with default audio track creation is that it makes a
mess of my timeline. My work demands I edit quickly and having a giant glob
of useless tracks throws me off. I do so many 2 and 3 frame edits it’s
important to me to have an extremely clean timeline. Every track is color
coded. My source materials on my current project have 12 audio channels.
I’m only using 3 of them. I’m wasting a lot of time deleting 9 tracks every
time I make an edit. I could leave them there but they get tangled in my
lassos and locking them for an entire project just hurts my brain having to
stare at a useless chunk of timeline. It’s a useless time suck that
professional editors with time constraints should have no use for.
Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 27, 2023

No worries!

I agree that having the option to constrain/disable automatic track creation sounds like a smart affordance, that'd allow both constituencies to work how they'd prefer. [Of course, that's easy for me to say, since my PPro dev team isn't responsible for timeline behaviors... 😉 ]

Community Expert
January 27, 2023

Apologies @Bruce Bullis if my reply came across as flippant, but I think it can be seen from all the replies here and the private beta discussions of this that have gone back years without even a single comment that this is good behavior and this needs to change. I've worked in some very demanding Premiere environments with a lot of editors, and we've talked about this very thing and none of them like this default behavior.

 

Your comment about it being a popular feature request made it sound like there was a poll or user voice request for it so that is what I was curious about as to where there were specific asks for an auto creation of audio tracks from a source. It also makes it sound like many of us voicing an opinion on this feature aren't working in demanding broadcast, film and enterprise environments and that just isn't true. 

Participating Frequently
January 27, 2023

This feature has become a poster-child for the apparent disconnect between broadcast/professional users and Adobe. But continuing this debate helps no one. 

There is a very simple solution to this which I suggested some point before on this thread: when it first happens ask users "do you want to auto-add tracks for this clip" with a Yes/No option and (this is the important bit) a "don't ask me again" checkbox. 

This keeps everyone happy or at any rate makes no one unhappy. 

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 27, 2023

I would still love to hear where @Bruce Bullis  got the data that this was a "popular feature request."

 

From multiple decades of working directly with Adobe's most demanding broadcast, film, and enterprise customers.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't provide an option to disable automatic track creation. 🙂

Known Participant
January 27, 2023

Gonna pile on here, and report that almost ALL of our editors have independently complained to me about this allegedly "popular" feature, and asked me if there's an option to disable it.

Based on the number of complaints about this issue--both public and private--it strains credulity the more people were asking for this than not.

 

But giving Adobe the benefit of the doubt that this was in fact the case, it's abundantly clear that there are enough "real editors" out there who absolutely hate it (myself included, and I dont even consider myself to be a real editor), and that there should at least an option in the Preferences to disable it. 

Community Expert
January 27, 2023

Now that the UserVoice has been moved here this "feature" request is getting some new attention from editors. I'll add again that this discussion goes back years and years. Very often we hear Adobe say they are looking at it but it never gets fixed. It's gone on so long that I wrote a detailed blog post about it to help explain to the Adobe engineers why this seemingly little thing is a huge headache for editors working in the application day in and day out. It is called My single most hated feature in Adobe Premiere Pro.

 

I would still love to hear where @Bruce Bullis  got the data that this was a "popular feature request." I don't think he is talking about the same thing, hence another reason I wrote that blog post. There are few "features" in an NLE that can cause so much extra work as this one single thing that will automatically add audio tracks to your existing timeline when you don't need or want them.

 

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 24, 2023
Automatically adding tracks to accommodate inserted clips was a popular feature request, and is unlikely to be removed

Would you prefer a warning?
Participant
January 24, 2023
PLEASE PLEASE, just make it so we can turn it off.
Woodrow Peel
Participant
January 24, 2023
20 years on Avid and now year 5 on Premiere. The automatic audio track add feature is an enormous waste of time. The editor should be able to make this decision. There are too many premiere functions like this that defy the editor's control. I've given up on ever editing quickly again. I'd like to be able to color label each audio and video track, independent of the source color label. For example, it would let me quickly know if I'm on a b-roll video track, or an SOT or a music track or a sound effect track. I'd like to be able to have the option of more choices with the on screen button editor. I'd like to disable the drag edit in point feature. I like Premiere's ease of use with graphics, but basic editing frustrations are inefficient compared to Avid.