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ETorr
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July 19, 2017
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Search Bins, Finds, & Filters + MetaData = PPro Power... with outages.

  • July 19, 2017
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A few observations about Search Bins and their ability/limitations when working with XMP Metadata.

1) The "Create Search Bin" / "Edit Search Bin" Popup

In one moment it offers the promise of the ability to find what you want when you want.  A moment later it seems like a search filter from email app c. 2004:

- Two total search filter terms connected by AND and OR.  Ideally the window would begin with 1 only, accommodate as many as needed.  Mac OS window search offers a compelling powerful alternative.

- Currently does not seem to accommodate ("contains", "is", "is not", "begins with", "ends with", wildcards, etc.).

- It accommodates searching a total of 21 specific XMP metadata properties plus the umbrella "All Metadata", but a far cry from the huge array of XMP properties available.  User-added custom XMP properties are nowhere to be had.  That not only reduces its power, it would seem to contradict PPro's otherwise gregarious embrace of MetaData management.

- The only access to editing the search terms seems to be via context-clicking the Search Bin from the Project Panel. Would be extremely convenient to access search terms from the open Search Bin panel itself.

- An ability to save Search Bin terms would allow a smart bin to change contents quickly and fluently -- allowing you "one bin to rule them all".

- A Search Bin Panel's "Video Usage" and "Audio Usage" column pulldowns work differently than they do in a regular Bin Panel.  Although they do show the related clips, the pulldowns are mysteriously are greyed out and won't pull up the item when selected.

2) The "Find" popup.

- Unlike the "Search Bin Popup" does have things like "Contains", "Starts With", "Ends With", "Matches Exact".  Great!!

- but, No wild cards

- And again, a max of 2 terms.

3) "Filter Bin Content" -- the filter input at the top of every bin.

- Generates no small amount of confusion because of its insistence on not allowing a 'flat file' display of results (Again, the Mac OS Finder search offers a good model, to the extent that it transforms the window from a standard folder window to a results window in which folder hierarchies disappear and keep the feature un-cluttered.  By contrast PPro leaves the folders, often empty, resulting in an obstacle course of seeming hits but which are really empty results)

Improving on these features opens up the possibility of transcending the limitations of bin/folder hierarchies that often look great but are very limiting in practice.  PPro's Search Bin has enormous potential, is really close.  A few more features and they unleash a project management power house.

2 replies

andrewr10698777
Participant
November 13, 2019

Searching for answers in 2019 and these are all still valid complaints- I can't believe search bins don't support custom metadata.  

 

I did find this page which makes it seem like Filter Bins used to be more powerful circa 2013 with the ability to filter on all metadata or visible- a function that appears to no lonmger exist.  

andrewr10698777
Participant
November 13, 2019
Legend
July 19, 2017
ETorr
ETorrAuthor
Inspiring
July 19, 2017

Already requested.  Hoping to motivate others to do the same.

Legend
July 19, 2017

Towards that end, I find it useful to put a copy of exactly what you submitted in the initial post.  That way folks who like the idea can just copy/pate it into the form, rather than type it out themselves.  Being able to do that might get you a few more submissions.