Support AV1 Video Encoding and Decoding

@MyerPj

OP poster here. I wouldn't exactly dismiss AV1 as another "lousy to edit" codec. It's simply not being supported nor hardware accelerated. It is a "relatively" new technology that has a lot of great benefits to the way we create and consume content.

Transcoding to any other codec (aside from proxies) degrades the quality of your footage for the sake of better editing performance because you're compressing footage again and it's a one-way street (you can't go back).

My personal editing philosophy....no editor should have to do that unless there is no other option or they have a tool like Topaz Video AI to enhance and eliminate compression artefacts when transcoding.

We want to make amazing stuff, but also make our lives easier without compromising on quality.

There is a reason we have hardware acceleration support for H.264 and HEVC/H.265. The entire editing process becomes so much more bearable and streamlined that it's almost like editing ProRes footage when scrolling/navigating the timeline. And with the new upcoming v25 update to Premiere Pro, we now have even more hardware acceleration support for those codecs (buttery smooth editing for 10-bit 4:2:0 footage may not seem like much, but it's something!). No need for transcoding!

As long as AV1 not only gains support but also hardware acceleration, in my opinion that changes the game when it comes to editing performance and the quality of your deliverables. I mean, who doesn't want better looking videos with smaller file sizes? Saves money on storage!

If DaVinci Resolve can do it, then so can Premiere Pro. And it just might be one of those things that makes Adobe appear even more worth the investment.

But yeah, those are my two cents.

@MyerPjI absolutely agree with you in terms of 'real' editing.
But I just have to get a ton of screen captures in shape which is far below real editing.
And for that it's much more work transcoding everything than I could benefit.

And Proxy also doesn't work because CC can't do AV1. If it would work just for Proxy that would absolutely fit.

The real point is, do we need another lousy to edit in codec. When you transcode, you'll get much better performance using something like ProRes LT or even Proxy - that's a codec made for editing. H.264 and 5 or equally not good for editing. So, I'm not for Adobe spending time on this kind of thing. But you never know.

@MyerPj 

I think you're missing the point - and are wrongbin this, too.

It's not about making money or being expensive in 1st place. It's about the fact that all that work is completely unnessecary because one wouldn't need it at all, if the AV1 codec would be supported. NVIDIA supports it in hardware and all my players can play it. And I need free 3rd party software for workarounds because Adobe doesn't provide support itself. That's the point.

And your workaround advice is wrong: wrapping is only for the container (MKV to MP4). OBS and others do that, too, and it also works with simple ending renaming by hand on Windows. But that doesn't change the codec. So you still have an AV1 MP4 which Adobe still can't read. The only working solution is using Shutter or Handbrake to transcode to H.264 (or alike). And that is very time consuming. And that's the point, too.

<<so time consuming and therefore expensive?>>

Maybe you want it that way, make more $$?

Using Shutter Encoder, drop them all into the window

Choose Function = Rewrap

Click Start Function

It all happens very quickly.

You can charge for that too. (it may even be expensive!)

🙂

What, is it really true?
End of 2024 and still no AV1 within Adobe CC?
Please tell me I missread something...

Got tons of AV1 encoded MKVs here (hello, Adobe, MKVs won't work either).
From MKV to MP4 it's a snap - if I don't have to transcode which I have as CC still doesn't know AV1.
How do I tell the customer, that handling simple screen captures is so time consuming and therefore expensive?

The whole suite is so far behind, it's SO sad (poor performance, not using CPU/GPU propperly - if at all, see e.g. InDesign).

Yes, AV1 would be good to have as an export possibility. No question about that.

one day please

That's total BS, but understandable due to the clumsy wording of their legal department. Which is getting reworked. They work with too many large companies, including both broadcast and defense industries, where that sort of thing bluntly is not allowed. They just can't do it and maintain those clients.

But of course, people like to make snarky comments.

How about simply accepting that not everyone else sees your priorities as essential? That's something we all need to learn to get by in Life, comfortably. And allowing others to simply be other.

Good point. Adobe's engineering time is being spent setting up spyware like functions so they can see everything you are working on. Great use of development resources!