Synchronisation of multiple clips in timelime

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Subject: Audio Synchronization Issue in Premiere Pro

Dear Adobe Premiere Pro Team,

I am experiencing a consistent issue with the Synchronize by Audio feature in Premiere Pro.

When I try to synchronize clips from two cameras, Premiere Pro is unable to sync them correctly. However, the same video files synchronize instantly and accurately in DaVinci Resolve and Filmora, which indicates that the audio in the clips is suitable for synchronization.

Because of this issue, I have to export or import my footage into other editing software just to synchronize the clips, and then return to Premiere Pro for the rest of my editing. This disrupts my workflow and adds unnecessary time to every project.

I really enjoy using Premiere Pro, and I believe its editing tools, effects, and overall workflow are excellent. The only major issue I face is the reliability of the audio synchronization feature.

I kindly request that you investigate and improve the synchronization algorithm so that it performs as reliably as it does in competing software like DaVinci Resolve and Filmora.

Thank you for your continued efforts to improve Premiere Pro. I look forward to seeing this issue resolved in a future update.

Sincerely,
A Premiere Pro User

ProVideo Coalition has also devoted a post to this matter: https://www.provideocoalition.com/fare-thee-well-pluraleyes-you-were-truly-revolutionary/

Hopefully, engineers at Adobe will read this. Perhaps you can help bring it to their attention @Kevin-Monahan?

Yea, there's that, isn't there?

Well ... this is why pushing on the Pr devs to up it's native multicam processes is maybe even more needed than before ...

Neil

Or: Maxon could decide that audio is not in their primary interest altogether and they focus on visual fx plugins...

Good points about the track thing. That's one area that PluralEyes always has done better, putting all of Cam X on a certain track even if the files are "discontinuous".

In Premiere, if Cam X shoots a while, stops, shoots again later while the entire shoot on at least one cam plus audio goes on ... Premiere parks that next bit on a higher track. Which isn't what I think anyone would ever want.

That needs changing in Premiere.

Neil

@Neil7640390,  Yes, you can batch muliple clips, but they all go on their own video/audio track and it starts to get unruly.  I end up sliding things up and down manually so the multicam doesn't have dozens of windows. That part could be made more elegant. (Even in Avid you can put all your camera A on one track, all your camera B on another, hit make group and they mostly stay put.)

Having pondered this PluralEyes thing for a couple of days my semi-educated guess is this:  they will introduce a revamped version in a few months with some new features that will "justify" a big price hike for current users, or just incorporate it it into one or more of their overpriced suites.

PluralEyes is now officially listed as heading for EOL?

Wow ... um ... ouch.

Although PluralEyes is a better tool for some things, I'm puzzled by something in your comment. You say you can't batch Sync in Premiere, but actually, the Multicam process does batch work pretty decently.

In Premiere, at this time, one can select say an entire bin of clips in the Project panel, say you've got 12 clips of video with camera sound, each with also a separate audio-only file. With all clips in the bin selected, tell Pr to make multi-cam sequences.

If say four of the video/sound clips are from an interview from different cameras, a couple are from a different interview, and the rest are one-cam only interviews ... Premiere will sort that out so you'll have that four-cam interview as one MC, the two cam as another MC, and the other six video files as individual MCs but synced with their audio.

All in the Project panel, all as sequences or clips as you wish. That isn't workable?

Neil

Yes, PluralEyes was one of my most used Plugins from Red Giant.

Yes, the ability to make sync maps simply within Premiere would be great. 

PluralEyes' ability to do that, plus their drift correction have been huge timesavers.  Of course, it still works -- for now.