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September 7, 2024
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Another image rejected

  • September 7, 2024
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Hello friends.
It's hard to understand the criteria they use to approve or not an image. You spend time doing the job and it's rejected for a non understanding reason: 
"Intellectual Property Violation".
There are tons of licence plates being selling but mine is violation?
This is the official model used for advertisements and publications in my country. Actually it doesn't exists. It's just used as a model.

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Known Participant
September 8, 2024

As for the license plate posted by the questioner, there is a high possibility that someone has already posted a Brazilian license plate.
If you raised it,
Even if you change the numbers or change the angle in that picture, the algorithm
It may have been a copyright infringement
So it was rejected for copyright infringement.
I maintain that my judgment is clearly correct.

Known Participant
September 8, 2024

Hi!
If you search for "Mercosul License Plate" or Brazilian License Plate" you get only 8 results. 2 pics of plates and 6 of a car. The images of plates are as attached. The first pic makes no sense at all since after 3 letters we have 1 number, 1 letter, and 3 other numbers, and not 3 letters and 4 numbers. The second pic is correct but missing the southern cross on left top and it's vector image in front view. If we could not send an image of the same object in another angle, or change some characteristics, we would have for instance, only one image of a pool table for download, as all of them have the same format.
I just wonder why the the attached pic has been accepted, since is exactly the same model as mine.
If the given reason were low demands, or excess of same image, that would be ok, but " Intellectual Property Violation" makes no sense.

Known Participant
September 9, 2024

If the application is rejected for infringement of intellectual property rights, it is not important whether it complies with the law or common sense.
It is most important to understand how Adobe's artificial intelligence algorithms are structured. The judging entity is Adobe artificial intelligence. It is not right to judge based on international law, domestic law, or common sense.
If you upload it to Shutterstock, it must follow Shutterstock's algorithm, and if you upload it to Adobe, it must follow Adobe's algorithm. There are countless sites for uploading pictures, and the laws on all of them are different.
It is meaningless to ask why the laws are different from those of other companies.
I looked at the status of car license plates from several countries, including the United States and Brazil, on Adobe.
What you need to think about with common sense is, if I were an Adobe administrator, how would I code an algorithm that determines the intellectual property rights of car license plates? And how did the Adobe administrator code it?
The Adobe administrator coded your picture to determine it to be a copyright infringement, and I would have also coded your picture to determine it to be a copyright infringement.
I don't know if the Adobe manager is American, but if he is, he knows American laws and would know how to avoid lawsuits regarding American license plates.
However, I am Korean and I know Korean law. Korean license plates cannot be uploaded to Adobe. If the numbers are the same, you will definitely be sued.
In that case, car license plates cannot be treated on the same level as billiard tables or national flags. Because you need to know the laws of every country.
There may be two reasons why it was rejected for infringement of intellectual property rights. One is to recognize it as an object with the right of portrait because Brazil's laws are unknown, and the other is to recognize it as a creative painting even though it does not have the right of portrait because it has the status of a popular and universal object such as a flag or a billiard table.

I don't know which of the two was recognized as the status, but Adobe's algorithm is legitimate, and I would have coded it that way too.
That is an infringement of intellectual property rights. Whether you consider it according to international law, domestic law, or common sense... there is a high probability that it will be an infringement of intellectual property rights, and more importantly, it is natural for sites that upload pictures to view them as dangerous pictures that will be subject to lawsuits.

It's important to understand and avoid it, but complaining about why Adobe made the algorithm that way is a waste of time.

Known Participant
September 7, 2024

If I draw a simple triangle and submit it, is it a worthy drawing and will it be approved?
Yes, it is a worthy painting and it is approved. It's actually just a simple triangle in the Adobe collection.
However, only the first person to post enjoys the benefit, and the second upload is rejected for copyright infringement.
The triangle itself is not copyright infringement. This is because, if you bundle two triangles and 99 polygons and upload them as a set, it may be rejected as an insincere drawing, but it will not be rejected as a copyright infringement.
I have put up about 30 crosses. However, only the simplest cross drawing was rejected for copyright infringement.
However, the cross was not rejected when it was part of a set introducing various forms of the cross.
I don't see a problem with your work, but I think it may have been rejected for copyright infringement because it is similar to a license plate illustration that someone else has already uploaded.

Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 8, 2024

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If I draw a simple triangle and submit it, is it a worthy drawing and will it be approved?
Yes, it is a worthy painting and it is approved. It's actually just a simple triangle in the Adobe collection.
However, only the first person to post enjoys the benefit, and the second upload is rejected for copyright infringement.

 

I think it may have been rejected for copyright infringement because it is similar to a license plate illustration that someone else has already uploaded.

By @? ??

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Rubbish.  😝

 

That would be rejection for Duplicate Content, not an Intellectual Property violation.

 

Re-read Reasons For Content Rejection

 

If your files contain content protected by intellectual property laws, we can’t accept them. This rule is in place to protect you as well as our customers and Adobe Stock. For more information, review the Legal guidelines section of this Contributor guide.

Content protected by IP laws may appear in the image, description, title, and/or keywords. 

 

Intellectual Property Guidelines

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/ip-guidelines.html

 

Restricted Images List

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/known-image-restrictions.html

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Known Participant
September 8, 2024

If it is similar to your own portfolio work, it is natural that it will be rejected as a duplicate.
However, if it is similar to someone else's portfolio, it may be rejected as intellectual property rights.
There are too many pictures piled up, and the review mechanism inevitably becomes more complicated and changes every day.
Individual experiences can be gathered together to predict the overall review mechanism.
The experience itself is neither right nor wrong. It is just what it is.
It is not good for everyone to judge people based on old-fashioned, conventional methods.

Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 7, 2024
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There are tons of licence plates selling but mine is violation?

By @roberto25924244x86i

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We don't know how many are actually selling.  I'm guessing there is some limited demand for generic, regional plates that can be customized after purchase.  See below.

https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=licence%20plate

142,336 results for licence plate in all

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 7, 2024
quoteWe don't know how many are actually selling.  I'm guessing there is some limited demand for generic, regional plates that can be customized after purchase.  See below.

https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=licence%20plate

142,336 results for licence plate in all

 

By @Nancy OShea

But that's no reason to refuse on IP grounds.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Ricky336
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 7, 2024

Hello,

As Adobe is based in America, it may have something to do with US law. They are very particular about copywriting and IP.

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 7, 2024

It is not important what you know, it is important what the moderator knows. But there may well be laws in place that prohibit using a certain design or elements of that design. I don't know specifically about Bresil, but some countries may simply prohibit using the design of the number plates. 

 

Also, the refusal may be generic: as a number plate is to identify individuals, they often get edited out. If you have a generic number for local use, the moderator may not be aware of that rule. By precaution it gets refused. It's cheaper to have erronous refusals than erronous acceptances.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Known Participant
September 7, 2024

"It's cheaper to have erronous refusals than erronous acceptances." I think that's the point.
Thanks friend!

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 7, 2024
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"It's cheaper to have erronous refusals than erronous acceptances." I think that's the point.
Thanks friend!


By @roberto25924244x86i

You need to look at this in the correct context:

You publish something about an IP protected product. Nobody will take care, as you have not

  • the reach, so the rights oner will never know about that.
  • you have no money, so attaching you is really not a very profitable operation.

Adobe has the reach and the money, so they need to be more careful.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 7, 2024

While I haven't done much research, the Brazil license may be used personally, but possibly not for commercial use, 

Adobe Community Expert | If you can't fix it, hide it; if you can't hide it, delete it.
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September 7, 2024

This model of license is used a lot for advertisers on google as you can see on attached pics. I understand as Intellectual Property Violation when you use someone else property. It would be a violation if I take a picture of someone else license and tired to sell it, but as I said this is a model only. Thanks anyway!

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 7, 2024

I would not know that, as I'm not located in Brasil. The moderator may not know that neither.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer