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DLW.Sr
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October 25, 2023
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Can someone explain why these images were rejected for "quality issues" ?

  • October 25, 2023
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I've uploaded 300+ images of different bird species and never had a problem until today. I always use the same styles, poses, trees etc. so I have no clue why they were rejected for Quality Issues. 16 out of 40 images weren't accepted.  Here is 3 of the 16.... thanks in advance for any advice! 

Correct answer moe hong

I compared these with photos of the actual bird species and ... they're not accurate. I realize yours were quality rejections, but I'm not sure using AI for factual nature illustration is smart, at least at this point, unless you're using a custom model trained on a massive number of correctly-identified bird photographs and illustrations. What would happen if someone used one of the very inaccurate ones in a nature guide? Obviously that shouldn't happen, but it could. Maybe you should just call them "songbird" or "finch" a more general but also more accurate term like that. Sometimes specificity can be misleading.

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moe hongCorrect answer
Inspiring
November 21, 2023

I compared these with photos of the actual bird species and ... they're not accurate. I realize yours were quality rejections, but I'm not sure using AI for factual nature illustration is smart, at least at this point, unless you're using a custom model trained on a massive number of correctly-identified bird photographs and illustrations. What would happen if someone used one of the very inaccurate ones in a nature guide? Obviously that shouldn't happen, but it could. Maybe you should just call them "songbird" or "finch" a more general but also more accurate term like that. Sometimes specificity can be misleading.

Abambo
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Community Expert
November 22, 2023
quoteI realize yours were quality rejections, but I'm not sure using AI for factual nature illustration is smart, at least at this point, unless you're using a custom model trained on a massive number of correctly-identified bird photographs and illustrations. 

By @moe hong

That's correct. Generative AI cannot be used to accuratly create specific pictures, unless your model is well trained for this. And even then, I doubt about accuracy needed. If you are a birds specialist, you won't use that. If you are doing a bird's feeding page you can use such assets.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Olmyntay
Known Participant
October 27, 2023

I have the same problem!
I signed up for mijorney again after a 2-month break, saw how much the quality of the generations had improved, and did a lot of new work.
The quality of the new pictures is much higher than anything I have uploaded before!
But!
Half of them are not accepted! I have never seen as many deviations in the entire year combined as I received in the last week with higher quality work!

Jill_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 27, 2023

If you would like feedback from the Contributor community here in this forum, upload a couple of your rejected assets. If you read the above commentary you will learn that the rejected images from the original,poster did have easily identifiable flaws, which he has now endeavored to correct. There is no reason why Adobe should accept such flawed images, just because the AI Generators are not always creating good images. AI Assets are NOT held to a higher standard than photographs.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
Olmyntay
Known Participant
October 27, 2023

Thank you brother!
There is simply no logic here! There is no certainty!
I am well aware of what artifacts are and what problems with the image.
You can always find artifacts in any AI image.
Yes, and in any photography and 3D graphics you can also find problems, well, nothing is ideal in this world!
It’s just that in one image these minor problems are accepted, but in the other they are not. Therefore, it is  impossible to simply understand!   
Maybe I came under the tutelage of a very strict moderator. %))   

jacquelingphoto2017
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October 26, 2023

Hi @DLW.Sr ,

All have noise grains and artifacts. The second one gives the impression of a compressed poor-quality picture when zoomed. Also, if you look carefully at the bird's feet you'll notice a problem with the details of all the birds' feet at the toes.

Best wishes

Jacquelin

 

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 25, 2023

Post the originals as submitted. Are they generative AI?

 

And you should submit PNG files for cutouts. That's not the refusal reason, but it makes your pictures more interesting. 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
DLW.Sr
DLW.SrAuthor
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October 25, 2023

Yes, generative AI. I do see the problem with the chicks in the nest but the other 2 images look fine to me.

Abambo
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Community Expert
October 25, 2023

I saw trouble with the feet on the one I opened, but I could not determine, if it was bad cutout work or if the asset was generative AI. If you have a good mederator, they will fail.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
RALPH_L
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Community Expert
October 25, 2023

At 200% I see artifacts arround the beaks.

DLW.Sr
DLW.SrAuthor
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October 25, 2023

Thanks - all 300+ birds I've submitted look the same with no rejections. Zooming in 200% is something I've never had to worry about.

Abambo
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Community Expert
October 25, 2023

Zooming at 200% makes artefacts that you see at 100% obvious. That's all.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Jill_C
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Community Expert
October 25, 2023

Did you submit these as file type "photos" or "illustrations"?

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
DLW.Sr
DLW.SrAuthor
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October 25, 2023

All were submitted as Illustrations with the correct boxes checked.