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garryf43830721
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March 16, 2018
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Dear Adobe Stock - please use a human rather than a machine to check submissions!!!

  • March 16, 2018
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I accept and wholeheartedly support that Adobe needs to apply a high level of quality control for the stock images it markets. I also accept that the commercial value or desirability of images are very subjective and even technically good images may be rejected due to duplication or over representation within Adobes catalogue.

What I do not accept is when an image is rejected due to so called artifacts or out of focus when the image is clearly effected by neither. Having uploaded a large number of images, all taken with professional quality cameras, carefully processed (moderately) and checked at 100% (often more) to confirm no artifacts, aberrations, noise, exposure issues etc. plus checking for sharpness and focus on a high resolution calibrated monitor. Many of these images have been printed at large format and display no such issues. Others have already been used in both print and digital media without issue elsewhere.

It is so frustrating to put in numerous hours tagging photos (especially since the transfer of keywords from Lightroom isn’t complete) only to have them bulk rejected (clearly by machine given the timing) with dubious rulings. Initially I went back into a few images, double checked them, confirmed no issues. Then uploaded again. For some a different so called technical error, others the same again.

Whats more surprising images I considered marginal for IQ passed without issue! I'm not talking about asthetics, commercial or subject matter here, but based on  technical aspects.

Perhaps Adobe could allow us to bulk upload and check our images for a pass or fail on their machine screening before we went to the trouble of tagging and naming them? Whilst this wouldn’t change the rejection ratio, it would save us lots of time.

For me, I’m going to stop wasting my time with Adobe and utilise a competitor market my stock photos. One that actually uses a human to check image quality. With several hundred more images to upload the returns for the effort are just not viable with Adobe. Time better spent on capturing fine art images which yield a greater return.

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Correct answer joanH

Hi,

a problem with Focus Stacking is depending on how many images you combine here with the software that can result in an irregular depth of field. This seems to me to be the case in this picture. Some blurred areas in the image maybe have been interpreted by the selector as artifacts. Example:

One should pay attention to check the even distribution of the depth of field in focus stacking shots carefully, as the software processing can result in several image errors with regard to joining and fading.

Greets,

v.poth


Hi,

Without any additional magnification of these two photos, I immediately saw the problems VP expressed and then some.

I have helped many excellent (artist) juries select artwork for entry into competitions and let me say, the jurors often run through the slides, of all media artwork, taking no more than a second or two on each slide. I have actually stopped the judging and asked them to take a second look at an exceptional piece. There is a mindset with every judge, they have decided what the trend is and what they want in the show. I stopped entering competitions long ago because of the bias of judges. GIve me a neutral machine anytime.

To your photos above, I would have to look at each rock to determine where the noise and soft edges are. That takes too much time-- if I have to review 900 photos in one sitting. So, reject it to save time, maybe.

VP offered expert information for you. He did not say these photos could satisfactorily be fixed.

You sound like a reasonable guy with a sense of humor and I believe you will be back with even better work.

Best regards, JH

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v.poth
Inspiring
March 16, 2018

Hi,

I don't think Adobe Stock rejects pictures deliberately, because they earn their money with them and therefore want to have and sell as many pictures as possible in their database.

The technical, pictorial and legal requirements for a commercially usable image are defined by Adobe Stock and will be applied accordingly by the selectors in their evaluation.

Believe me, there are many examples here in the forum, in which offerers think their pictures are error-free from their point of view, and with concrete consideration it turned out again and again that they actually were not. One thing I learned in my time here as a provider, the eyes of the photographer on his own work can very often be blind on one eye.

It doesn't matter what you see on your monitor, but what the selectors see on hers matters, and I don't think they are of bad quality.

The keywords and titles of the image must also be checked by the selectors, so that subsequent indexing after approval would only require a further check. That doesn't make much economic sense to a company, I mean.

Greets,

v.poth

Participant
March 17, 2018

I understand and am fully aware of photographers bias. My point is the frustration and wasted effort in submitting photos which have been checked against the guidelines and on professionally calibrated equipment only to be rejected.

I would argue the claim that humans are doing the bulk of the checking. There are plenty of examples where rapid rejection suggests otherwise.

Humans can distinguish noise from sand, mist and spray.... Like wise deliberate soft focus or speed blur images that get rejected for focus issues.

joanH
Inspiring
March 17, 2018

So many words here about how the stock is selected or rejected. I do not see why one is so put off at the thought of a finely tuned computer scanning our work. Not that Adobe uses machines and not real people. I do not know for sure, and I do not care either way. I have trusted my life to computer finding a deadly growth in my body - no human could see it.

Honestly now, Adobe has set the standards and precisely written them out. They are a well-respected company. They know what works for them. Why waste guesses and fussing about a done deal. Live with it or not. Remember, Adobe is unlike any other stock buyer and seller.

I do not care what they use to review my submitted work. I spend more time reading about each rejection - I find my errors. I submit a corrected work. It is often accepted as corrected. Why not see if you can work with human or machine. Our world is integrated - both serve a role to the end goal. Our future is more computers, not fewer.

Your rejections are not meant to cause you anger or doubt or pain for the artist. Adobe simply has a standard for its unique clientele.

You are free to choose. Let's remember who is in charge here. Rants will not change a thing. DIscussions and learning will get your stock accepted. JH