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First Time Contributor Rejections

  • July 12, 2022
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Hi,

 

I am uploading my images for the first time (15 in total). They are astrophotography images I have taken. The majority have been rejected due to 'intellectual property refusal'. I have no idea why this is the case as they are my images and I own them. I haven't posted anywhere else with exception of Instagram and I have used generic keywords for description. See example of the first attachment (Rosette).

 

I have a few other rejected due to 'technical issues' - see example of one rejected for the second attachment (Orion).

 

It's very frustrating considering this is the first time using the site and not being provided any specific feedback for me to address.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks

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Nancy OShea
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July 13, 2022

I don't mean to seem disparaging, really I don't.  But unfortunately you're competing with the most sophisticated space telescope ever, the JWST.  These newly released images are making ground-based imagary look like anemic blobs.  I can't sugar coat it.  People are going to source images from NASA because they can.  How can you compete with this?

https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-first-photos

 

 

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Paul25223738k8qaAuthor
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July 13, 2022

I'll charge less haha! No, I get your point and had that realisation after posting originally. There is plenty of competition (not only NASA) and the subjects are not unique so obviously any buyer is going to opt for the best one!

Nancy OShea
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Nancy OSheaCommunity Expert
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July 13, 2022

You don't get to set your own prices, though.   Adobe Stock sells their customers tiered pricing plans that vary by quantity & type of assets they desire (standard, premium, video, etc...). 

 

But yeah, JWST is a very tough act to follow.  Hopefully, you have other images you can submit.

 

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
RALPH_L
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RALPH_LCommunity Expert
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July 13, 2022

It is hard to believe these are your images. If they are, sign and upload a propert release.

Abambo
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AbamboCommunity Expert
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July 13, 2022
@RALPH_L wrote:

It is hard to believe these are your images. If they are, sign and upload a propert release.

No, it's not hard to believe. But the ip refusal is either by error or because of the keywords. I had an IP refusal (not on Adobe stock) because I posted a picture of hot coke in a coke transfer car. Coke is a trademark of the Coca Cola company. But coke, which is cooked coal is something different and it is called coke since centuries. That would be the same as photographing an apple and getting a refusal because of that phone maker.

 

For astrophotography look here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/manuelhuss/

 

That guy cools down his sensor to -20° C, to avoid the long exposure noise during a 30 hours take...

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
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    Paul25223738k8qaAuthor
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    July 13, 2022

    Thanks for showing me up by providing a link to this guy's images! Haha. 

     

    Here's mine: https://www.instagram.com/astroeddie/?hl=en

     

    Obviously not to the same standard and I guess that's the point of not going down the route of sharing my images here and expecting to have any success.

     

    Yea I shoot between -10o C and -20o C although not as long exposure times. I think most I've done for a single image is 5.5 hours. The longer the exposure, the greater signal to noise ratio. I'm kind of limited as I live in the cloudiest place on earth and can't shoot during summer as don't get true darkness at my latitude! 

     

     

    Abambo
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    AbamboCommunity Expert
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    July 12, 2022

    There is no specific feedback, as the moderators assume that you are a professional. It's not a photography school, and you need to figure out, what is wrong. And to ease the pain, Adobe asks other contributors to help to comment the failed pictures.

     

    Customers are the main target of this stock service, and they want perfect pictures that can be used as they wish. There are thousands and thousands of pictures submitted each day, and checking them needs to be time- and cost-effective.

     

    Every one of us has his part of refusals. You will learn to live with that. 😉

    Now to your pictures:

    Let's start with Orion:

    The technical issue is very obvious.

    In addition, you have noise and the picture is missing contrast. I'm not sure about the halos around the stars.

     

    Having Rosette to be rejected for IP reasons is more tricky. Please look into the title and/or the keywords as not to use trade names or similar. It has for sure nothing to do with having or not having posted the image somewhere else. You can post your images at any site you want. But also here, I'm seeing noise and a lack of contrast. There is also that (in my eyes) strange halo around stars.

     

    I'm not in astro-photography, but I know that people doing that have very special equipment. To support the digital back for long exposures, they actively cool the back to very low temperatures. They are using specific telescopes and their equipment is made to compensate for the earth movement. That's a very specific application.

    ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
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    Paul25223738k8qaAuthor
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    July 12, 2022

    Many thanks for your response and feedback. It's what I needed to hear. I guess I never considered that those minor details would be under such scrutiny. Not something I noticed but will do going forward. I guess that's caused by the star removal tool and subsequent addition of the star layer during post processing.

     

    This type of photography is technically difficult to master and a master I am not! I guess on reflection there are going to be many images of the same subject and therefore any buyers are going to opt for those that are flawless. I best up my game in that field!

     

    I do other types of photography so may have more success with those images.

     

    Thanks again for your help and feedback!

     

    Paul

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    July 13, 2022

    The other thing to bear in mind is that Adobe's reviewers (and the photo purchasers) are not specialists, they will know nothing about the difficulties and technical issues of astrophotography. A reviewer might zoom in on a star field, see what is normal to you, in the knowledge of the limitation of the equipment and long exposure times, and declare it "out of focus". This particularly affects specialist fields - for example, a photo of an incredibly rare animal doing something never recorded before of fantastic scientific interest is going ro be rejected if it is not in focus, or has poor composition, or it was moving.

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