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February 27, 2024
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Hello everyone,

I don't mind be thorough, but I don't like wasting time doing things that don't need done, which brings me to my question.

When cleaning up images, I have trouble deciding if a reflection is natural or NEEDS to be removed. I understand that sometimes "natural" portions of an image are best removed. If I think something is distracting, I usually delete it. My questions revolves around sunlight reflecting on beach waves, hair or snow, as shown in the attached image.

Thanks in advance for your help. I would appreciate if I could get only the answer to my very specific question. This is a good example for my question and doesn't need picked apart, thank you!

UPDATED QUESTION HERE!! How do I know what should be deleted and what can stay? Is it determined by simply LOOKING or do I use the assistive technology such as the Histogram or is there another tool I'm unaware of? On an additional note, please do not critique the image as it is just an example as to hair and snow reflections. I do most of my work in LRC anyway. So looking at what I've done in Photoshop is moot.

I just remembered another query: does anyone know how Adobe's payouts are decided? I assume it has something to do with the subscription level of the downloader? I've had an image downloaded twice. The first time it fetched a whopping $.90, but the 2nd time, it was $3.00. 😃

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Correct answer Abambo

Thanks so very much!

You should keep an eye on the histogram. It's the most important tool to get your picture right. But it really depends on the picture. And reflections are part of our life and they are needed to get a nicer look.

Abambo

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99 cents is a standard 10 assets per month subscription, $3.30 is a 3 assets per month mothly subscription.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor

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Thanks, pieces are coming together 😃

My last image got $3.30 so that makes perfect sense. I googled the lowest payout and discover ed it is $.25, which made me laugh because I had one get $.33, which I was sure must be the lowest. This whole stock business is complicated and a bit humorous!

Ricky336

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My questions revolves around sunlight reflecting on beach waves, hair or snow, as shown in the attached image.

UPDATED QUESTION HERE!! How do I know what should be deleted and what can stay? Is it determined by simply LOOKING or do I use the assistive technology such as the Histogram or is there another tool I'm unaware of? On an additional note, please do not critique the image as it is just an example as to hair and snow reflections. I do most of my work in LRC anyway. So looking at what I've done in Photoshop is moot.

I just remembered another query: does anyone know how Adobe's payouts are decided? I assume it has something to do with the subscription level of the downloader? I've had an image downloaded twice. The first time it fetched a whopping $.90, but the 2nd time, it was $3.00. 😃

By @ImaRetiredTeacher

Hello,

Sunlight reflecting off waves/snow/hair etc, I think the term you are looking for is 'specular highlights' which don't need to be removed unless it is an eyesore!

What should be deleted and what should stay? Depends on the photo, is the reflection/highlight distracting? If so, then it should be removed.

Using the histogram is good, as it shows clipping, but if a highlight shows clipping, and it's sunlight reflecting off the water, then I don't think this is a major concern - specular highlights don't have to be removed all the time!

The payouts are determined by the subscription that the person has. if it is a one-time buy, then the payout is higher, if the person has a stock subscription, the price is determined by the subscription package - hence the price difference you noticed.

I think you have asked a relevant question!

You might find this a useful read:

Mark David | Specular highlights in photography (mdavid.com.au)

He talks about specular highlights, so this may answer your question!

ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor

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Thanks so much for your response. I understand now and am grateful to you for taking the time to educate me on both topics 😃 You're awesome!

Ricky336

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Don't think of it as 'being educated...' Just giving an opinion, which I hope is helpful. That's all! 😁

Nancy OShea

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The image needs a Level's Adjustment Layer to boost highlights on the model's face. See screenshots.

BEFORE ADJUSTMENT: Highlights are clipped

AFTER ADJUSTMENT:

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor

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I'll adjust my original post to reflect my actual question. My apologies. But I did say I wasn't looking for this sample image to be picked apart.

Nancy OShea

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I did say I wasn't looking for this sample image to be picked apart.
By @ImaRetiredTeacher

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Then I have no idea why you posted this here. The purpose of this board is to critique images & give feedback on ways to improve them for Stock Acceptance. If that's not what you seek, don't post here.

Try posting in Lightroom or Photoshop ecosystem instead.

Good luck!

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Jill_C

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I think you meant highlight, not reflections. As @George_F said, highlights are okay as long as the area isn't blownout. It's always a good idea to review the histogram.

Royalties are described here:

https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/royalties

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor

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I wasn't sure which term was best as the highlights come from reflecting the sun, correct?

George_F

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I don't see anything concerning in regards to highlights from the sun. I think as long as the highlights aren't blown out or overly distracting you are good to go!

Cheers!

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer

ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor

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Thank you for concentrating on my topic. I'm afraid I didn't really clearly state my question, my apologies. I'm going to fix my flub right nope and how you will again send a kind reply. 😃

George_F

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You are most welcome. It's a little bit of both. At some point I'm going to look at the histogram and probably turn on clipping alerts as I'm adjusting basic exposure and setting white/black points.

But then I'm also going to scrutinize the image from a compositional standpoint for distracting elements which may include overly bright areas or bright spots of light.

I think it really depends on the photo and it's a case by case basis, there's really not a firm rule to follow here.

Cheers!

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer

RALPH_L

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Reflection in this image is fine. However, this image is too dark, lacks contrast and is not focused. Payout is 33% of the price that the buyer pays. Which is determined by his subscription.

ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor

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I remembered reading the 33% rule but it wasn't making sense to my brain because I've not had the same payout even twice so far. I can't image how many different subscription fees there are! Thanks for your response 😃

Abambo

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It's 33% of the price the buyer pays for the licence, but a minimum of 33 cents. https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/royalties.

And there are a lot of different plans, and some contributors even reported less than the 33 cents.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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