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June 27, 2022
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INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY REFUSAL for a 300 years old location. Need your feedback.

  • June 27, 2022
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The following picture has been rejected due to IP issues. 

This is a 300 years old location and I read somewhere in ADOBE that for buildings older than 120 years you won't need a release. Of course, there are exceptions like the Eiffel tower, etc. which seem not applicable here. 

My thinking is that the shops could be the source of the problem. But they are partially there and not identifiable. 

The whole area belongs to the city and it is considered a public place. 

Pictures of people and some logos have been blurred out. Even without blurring them out, they were not identifiable. 

So I need your feedback on my picture and my thoughts. 

If the problem is the shops, I can blur their windows. But before doing that I want to make sure the problem is not something else.

Thank you

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Correct answer Nancy OShea

It's a very nice ceiling.  If you crop out the people and shops, Adobe might accept the architectural elements. But not the entire image. 

 

 

 

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Abambo
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June 28, 2022

All good advice that you got here. But you really need to read the links that I and others provided. They give you many clues about what to do or not to do.

 

You did simply blur faces and logos. That is done sometimes for editorial work, to protect the identity of peple and locations. But you don't submit for a case like this. Someone will need your picture for a commercial or similar, and they will not be amused to see your awful work. It is clearly written in the documentation that you will need to photoshop those things out, in a way that lets no hint to your work. These are technical issues.

 

I think, that there are also other technical issues, but I did not look at those and cannot make any assessment on this for the moment. Just that I noticed, that the shop windows were overexposed.

 

I do not think, that the shop windows will trigger IP concerns, if there are no logos shown and the shops are pretty common. My thoughts in this sense are the following: To trigger IP here, the shop windows (or even better one shop window) needs to be the center of interest for the viewer. Or, the center of interest lies in this nice architecture. 

 

What triggers IP, besides the logos is, that you are inside a gallery and moderators will assume, that someone controls access to the building, so that someone needs to give you a property release. It's completly irrelevant if there is none needed. You have to prove that you are allowed to take pictures for commercial use. 

 

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ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
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June 28, 2022

I sincerely appreciate your helpful feedback. A few days left on my trip and I hope I can find someone who has some authority for release purposes. The culture and communication here are totally different. 

Nancy OShea
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Nancy OSheaCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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June 27, 2022

It's a very nice ceiling.  If you crop out the people and shops, Adobe might accept the architectural elements. But not the entire image. 

 

 

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
George_F
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June 27, 2022

There are too many IP issues to count in this photo.  In general, someone owns the IP to anything man made and for anything recognizable you'd need explicit permission to use.  Clothing design, shop displays, the lighting, are some examples I found with a quick browse.  I suspect there are many more in this photo.

 

I believe blurring out the IP issues would catch a technical issue for blurriness, although I've never tried it.

 

In addition, there are other technical issues along with the IP issues that I think would prevent this photo from being accepted.

 

I wish you success!

 

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer
Legend
June 27, 2022

Also, each shopkeeper has the IP rights to their shop display. You have many, and each shopkeeper could sue you. Look at everything - small details, not just the building.

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June 27, 2022
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Also, each shopkeeper has the IP rights to their shop display. 


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Would that still be a case when I don't have a full display? Even with 200% zoom, the display objects don't have details. 

What if I blur out the window glasses?

Jill_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 27, 2022

Intentional blurring, as you've done on the faces, just looks bad and will not be accepted by Adobe. I really wouldn't bother with trying to get an acceptable image in a heavily trafficked location with so many IP constraints. The image also has technical issues which you'd have to address.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
RALPH_L
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June 27, 2022

Blurring out the logos is not enough. They are still identifiable. They must be removed.

Also your blurring of the peoples faces will probably not be accepted. It does not look well.

Next time, due a time lapse with a ND filterh attached.