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INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY REFUSAL - tying to understand

  • June 6, 2023
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From Adobe: During our review, we found that it contains elements that appear to be protected by intellectual property (IP) laws, so we can't accept it into our collection. Elements protected by IP may appear in the image or in the description, title, and/or keywords.

 

I am assuming the rejection was because of the park sign.  This is a public park park, so what is the problem here?  Adobe has accepted entrance signs like this from me for national Parks, State Parks etc.. not sure how this is any different?   Thanks.  

 

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It's important to realise that Adobe reviewers do not have a comprehensive catalog of all the IP in the world, and who owns it. Nobody does. They just have to apply common sense. It's ultimately the job of the contributor to verify IP (they are accountable for violations) but the reviewers act as a double check. The reviewers aren't going to know about state park signage, and don't care whether things are in a public place (because this makes no difference in many countries). They may not even be based in the US. What if they make a mistake? Then this is just a rejected image that might have been OK. There is no appeal. That would cost far too much to implement, more than the value of most images.

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Abambo
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June 7, 2023

You may try to submit those as Illustrative editorials. Or you will need to produce a property release.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
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Legend
June 8, 2023

It's important to realise that Adobe reviewers do not have a comprehensive catalog of all the IP in the world, and who owns it. Nobody does. They just have to apply common sense. It's ultimately the job of the contributor to verify IP (they are accountable for violations) but the reviewers act as a double check. The reviewers aren't going to know about state park signage, and don't care whether things are in a public place (because this makes no difference in many countries). They may not even be based in the US. What if they make a mistake? Then this is just a rejected image that might have been OK. There is no appeal. That would cost far too much to implement, more than the value of most images.

Nancy OShea
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June 8, 2023
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It's ultimately the job of the contributor to verify IP (they are accountable for violations)

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Jill_C
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June 6, 2023

Since these are not typical National Park or State Park signs, it isn't clear whether they're actually public property. If they were erected by the city mentioned on the signs, perhaps you can get a property release signed from someone in the city office.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
Nancy OShea
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June 6, 2023

I'm guessing William Munzer is somebody's name which implies ownership.  Additionally, the signs were designed by a graphic artist.  Maybe you can get a township official to help you obtain property releases so you can sell the images commercially.  If not, you'll need to digitally remove signage with Photoshop.

 

Property Releases:
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/property-release.html

 

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Craig_ZAuthor
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June 7, 2023

Thanks.  In this case the signage is an important part of the image and I took the shots explicitly to include them.   

Nancy OShea
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June 7, 2023

Yes, but the signs don't belong to you.  Therefore, you can't submit these images for commercial use.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Craig_ZAuthor
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June 6, 2023

As a follow up, Adobe rejected this image from the same grouping.