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September 13, 2021
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Anyone has an idea whats wrong and help to solve this?

Thx.

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Abambo

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My 5 cents: Composition and contrast. The picture does not make me want eating cheeseburgers, because of that dirty sign in front of the stainless-steel counter and that dirty plastic ketchup bottle and those boxes in the background. I could use the picture for an anti junk food article, but for that, the cheeseburger is too yummy.

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beaver1234Author

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The photo of the burger is not arranged.
Market stall in normal operation, too much light, not enough light, harsh light, harsh shadow, customers around.
Depth of field is appropriate for the conditions of the location and the low noise requirements.
It's shot handheld, in the environment as it appears in the picture.
If I crop it more, I get rid of the possibility of adding text next to the burger, for example.
The customer can crop it themselves as they wish.
Or, at least that's what I thought until now.

But I've already deleted the whole market burger series.

jacquelingphoto2017

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Hi @beaver1234 ,

So the burger is the subject. It is not in an eating environment, and you have no ideal background. What you do in this case is to get a good closeup that is properly focused. Usually with the right settings you'll get sharp closeup and a blur background. See an example at https://stock.adobe.com/images/ripe-and-unripe-cherries-on-branch/350438538 of an isolated twig with cherries against the background of a cluster of avocado and lime trees against the edge of a bit of concrete. It is highly unlikely that a customer would want to add text to a cluttered negative space. You just need enough space around it so that the customer will have ease cropping it from its background.

Look at it this way; a small element cropped and enlarged is likely to produce poor quality result. A large element cropped and reduced will still retain its quality. Hence larger isolated subject has more sales potential.

Best wishes

JG

Photographer and Nutrition Author

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beaver1234Author

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In addition to the fact that my email notification that a new post has been added here doesn't work, even though I have it turned on, I'd like to respond to this last... but it's not about arguing.
I just want to clarify some things.
In the attached montage of 2 pictures we can compare the background of what is being discussed.
The background by the cherry trees is made up of some wall and the trees behind that wall.
How far away are the wall and the trees? 10 meters? 20? Maybe more.
The background on the burger, the kitchen utensils or the environment, that's anywhere from 10 centimetres to a 1 metre.
How are you going to make the background as blurry naturally as the cherry trees?
I could knock down the aperture, but then you'll complain that the depth of field is too shallow.
You've given 2 things to compare that inherently can't be compared.
The street market has its own particular charm. That includes, for example, a certain amount of clutter around it.
But everything is very close to the main objects that are being photographed.
And you can't get a stallholder to move boxes of buns 20 metres behind the stall.

From everything that has been described here, I have the feeling, or the impression, that this is not a technical problem.
The real problem is that you just don't want such photos in principle, regardless of the technical design.
If you said that directly, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I'll gladly delete all the "street market" photos from my portfolio.
I have a small portfolio with you, so I didn't sell much, and after the "free photography" event started, all sales dropped to practically zero.

jacquelingphoto2017

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Hi @beaver1234 ,

I'd have a problem with the depth of field. Based on your framing, the bottle at the right is clearly an element of the frame, but it is out of focus. The left hand is out of focus. If those are not subjects of the frame then your burger should be filling up more of the negative space. In other words, not just that you'd have a poor composition, but also a cluttered one.

Best wishes

JG

Photographer and Nutrition Author

J E L

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@beaver1234 I like it. I think it might need a touch more black/contrast but I don't think that's a rejection issue. I would clean up the white pump bottle and the counter area in the corner in post and some other minor spot cleaning but otherwise I think it's fine.

RALPH_L

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The only thing that I can see, is that the focus is on the hand and not the burger.

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beaver1234Author

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Thats strange.

When I open image in 100% size, I can see sharp everything from skin on the fingers, bun with crispy edges after slicing, perfect sharp salad and also sharp sesame seeds.

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