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November 14, 2022
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Waiver release problem.

  • November 14, 2022
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hi, I have a problem with the waiver release form. 
I produce digitally generated images by A.I. by midjourney.
The people depicted are not real. How can I get the waiver release form
filled in and signed by a person who does not exist? Many Thanks
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Legend
November 15, 2022

This seems a good starting point. Is it the case that an AI-created picture was created (at least in part) by someone else? If so, not useful. But also, what would Adobe want with AI-created work at all? Tell me if this idea is wrong: if Adobe wanted to sell AI-generated work, they could use their own AIs and make millions of images, without paying any contributors.

Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 15, 2022

When the dust finally settles,  I think AI generated art will occupy it's own niche category with exclusions & limitations much like Editorial Use Only

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 14, 2022

The whole AI synthesized asset issue is mired in controversy because non-human generated content cannot be copyrighted in the U.S.   Without copyright, images cannot be sold and used commercially.  😭

 

I don't expect this to be sorted anytime soon.   In the meantime, don't submit AI generated content to Stock.  Use it for your personal projects only.

 

 

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 15, 2022
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Without copyright, images cannot be sold and used commercially.  😭

 

By @Nancy OShea

You can sell them, but you cannot avoid other people to copy them and use them without permission. It's tricky.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 15, 2022

According to Stock submission guidelines, Content Ownership:

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/submission-guidelines.html

 

"Understand copyright.

You must own or control all the rights to the files you submit to Adobe Stock. Don’t submit files that don’t belong to you, such as photos taken by your spouse. Don’t incorporate anything into your content that was created by *someone else — not even images you got from a website that allows free downloads — unless you have a complete property release from the owner of the other content. "

 

* Midjourney is someone/something else.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 14, 2022

Use a property release and note that the persons have not been modelled after existing individuals.

 

 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Participant
November 14, 2022
Ok i think i will do so. Many thanks
RALPH_L
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 14, 2022

I have contacted Adobe about their policies on AI generated images. Unfortunately, I have not recieved a reply.

AI images are a gray zone not yet covered by law.

It is not certain who the owner of the image is. You or the owner of the software (the developer). 

Presently, it is suggested that you upload an IP release showing that this is your design. It may, however be refused.

Participant
November 14, 2022

Many thanks Ralph for you response. Best regards.