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Firefly is terrible

Forum|Forum|1 year ago
November 28, 2024
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Not really a bug, but I dont know what else to put it under. Firefly ignores most of my prompt and gives me simple low quality images that dont even make sense. I describe what I want with great detail and its frustrating that it ignores what I want and gives me random stuff. I heard great things about Firefly but so far it has beyond disappointing.

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Nite-Stian

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these prompts wont work as firefly currently does not understand negative prompting or commands.

avoid using nouns such as remove, give, add, etc. instead just type what you want (e.g.) bald head.

generally I find descriptive and specific prompts to work better.

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Lionfishing

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Firefly is terrible. Lifelong Adobe user and art director. If Adobe plans to charge "credits" for the images they generate, they are going to have to make some major changes to their AI model so it actually provides usable images and has a responsive interface. So far I use it primarily for generating background slop for product mockups, which is about all it can handle. Trying to generate artwork with it is infuriating. I'd really like to keep AI generation in the Adobe suite to keep things easy for my company, but at this point the software just doesn't have the usability to make that realistic. Not sure where Adobe went wrong, but I want to chime in and agree 100% with what the OPs are saying here. It's a mess.

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Mr. Spaceman

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Oh and I forgot to mention how frequently Firefly blocks the thing I'm trying to correct and gives me the orange warning message about the guidelines and not violating the user agreement. I'm assuming it's thinking that I'm trying to get it to create nudity or something along those lines, which I've never done because I need Firefly for my workflow and don't want to risk having my access revoked. I'll type a prompt that says "remove the dark spot on her cheek" or "blend the skin on her finger" or "fix the knuckle on her pinky finger" and I'll get these orange warning messages. I'll then try to get Firefly to intuitively do it without a prompt and get the same sort of error messages. Doesn't seem to matter how much feedback I provide when they incorrectly block the things I'm trying to do but with the most recent Photoshop update it's become particularly egregious with even the most basic things.

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Mr. Spaceman

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I've used Firefly on a daily basis in tandem with Midjourney for over a year now. Up until Photoshop update v26.1 you were better off not putting a prompt in at all and having Firefly intuitively fill in or correct whatever it is your trying generate and it would only do so within the bounds of the pixels you had selected. Now what Firefly does if you don't put a prompt is it will generate well outside of the bounds that you select, usually altering something you didn't want changed, and then if you tell it something very specific that you want it to ie (fix jawline, remove ring from finger,) it spits out either unusable low resolution images or it'll put something in there that you didn't ask for but also makes zero sense in the context of image at large. This new update has broken the generative model and in many ways made it far less usable. I'll type in a prompt that says "give the man a bald head" or "remove the man's hair" and I'll get images of big white blobs or full heads of hair. For how dominant Adobe is in the graphic design and photo manipulation space it's baffling how inconsistent and bad Firefly can be. That being said it's also on many occassions given me amazing generated snippets that solve whatever I'm trying to correct. I haven't had a chance to try Beta v 26.3 yet but I'm hoping these issues were addressed in that.

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reconrad

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I can't say that Firefly has ever given me acceptable results. Well, if it's something really really simple, it may produce borderline acceptable results, however, it's is completely unusable to me. And if I have to "first" take my image outside of photoshop to get the results I'm looking for, then essentially that makes photoshop's "generative AI" wholly and completely useless. And keep in mind, I am not just ranting to be overly critical here... As a high standard artist, graphic designer, painter etc... I am simply trying to emphasize and convey just how unacceptable firefly's Image generation AI is compared to other leading image generation AI's out there. I would think that Adobe would not want to take the "cost-effective" spot in at the back of the line approach when it comes to setting themselves apart as a leader in this graphics/photography/artistic industry. With due respect, whoever is in charge of this generative AI department needs to step down and go in the department they should have never left, which would be "I just love over-simplified-abstract-interpretation" department. This mentality should not be allowed to be leaked or influence the primary objective which is to not let a single interpretation of graphics/photography/art BE the only one. He or she probably drinks too much wine anyway and has delusions of grandiosity anyway. Okay so that might have been a bit overly critical but those of us who have witnessed these abstract art extremist taking over the art world/industry with a linear and overly simplified enforcement of what is considered good art, are probably very frustrated.

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Since I couldn't get the text prompt to produce a style similar to the 1st image on the left, (despite reinterating to the AI that I wanted it to make the existing photo a pencil sketch), I ultimately added a reference image (where it doesn't permit a text prompt to accompany it) and Firefly3 kicked the image furthest to the right out. It doesn't look as bad as it really is at this lower res/smaller scale, but close up it's (bottom image) you can see that it fell off the wagon, strayed way out into the left field.

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Haggi Hug

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A little update:

The prompt: Deutsche Familie gemeinsam im Garten (German family together in the graden)
This is what firefly decided to create 6 montha ago ->

And today, 6 month later, after tools like Nano Banana are invented and many AI have improved so much,
this is what Firefly decided to produce today ->

Here some details:

And here details from the Asian family (as we all know that typical German families look very Asian):

I think the pictures talk for them selves. Shame on you, Adobe.

Or this propmpt:
An old-style family portrait from 1850. Grandmother, grandfather, mother, father, eight children and a dog are all looking at the camera. They all have the face of the Mona Lisa.

Firefly:

Gemini:

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droopydog500

Community Manager

Hello @OhJakie,

Thank you for your message. I am sorry you are having this problem.

Can you please share some of your prompts? Sometimes tweaking prompts can dramatically improve the results.

Thanks,
droopy

Adobe Community Expert (not an Adobe employee)

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