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August 26, 2022
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P:Limitation of Adobe Generative AI user guidelines [merged thread]

  • August 26, 2022
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Hello Adobe and its collective users

I am writing to you not only as a devoted user of Adobe’s suite of creative tools but also as a professional photographer whose work has been recognized and displayed in museum settings. My specialization in classic nudes has allowed me to explore the human form in a manner that celebrates beauty, form, and artistic expression. However, I have encountered a significant challenge with the AI restrictions placed on editing images that contain nudity, even when such images are created within a professional, artistic context.

 

As an artist whose work often involves nuanced and sensitive subjects, I understand and respect the complexities of creating ethical AI tools that serve a wide user base. However, the current limitations significantly impact my creative process and professional workflow, particularly when it comes to editing backgrounds for nude or semi-nude images. These restrictions not only prolong my work but also inhibit my artistic expression, compelling me to seek alternative solutions that may not offer the same level of quality and integration as Adobe’s products.

 

I propose the consideration of the following points, which I believe could benefit both Adobe and its professional users:

 

Artistic Integrity and Professional Use: Recognition of the professional and artistic context in which tools are used can help differentiate between content that is genuinely creative and that which the restrictions aim to prevent.

 

Ethical Use Policy: An ethical use policy that accommodates professional artists and photographers, possibly through a verification process, ensuring that our work is not unduly censored while maintaining legal and ethical standards.

 

Custom Solutions for Professionals: The development of specialized software versions that allow more flexibility for editing sensitive content, with appropriate safeguards to prevent misuse.

 

Feedback and Advisory Panel: Establishing a panel of professionals from the art and photography community to provide ongoing feedback and insights on how Adobe’s tools can better serve creative professionals.

 

Transparent Guidelines: The creation of clear, transparent guidelines that navigate the legal and ethical landscape, especially regarding sensitive content, to ensure users can understand and comply with Adobe’s policies.

 

I am fully committed to engaging in a constructive dialogue and am willing to be part of a solution that respects both the creative needs of artists and the ethical considerations of digital content. I believe that by working together, we can find a balanced approach that supports artistic expression while adhering to shared values and responsibilities.

 

Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter. I am hopeful for an opportunity to discuss this further and explore how we can make Adobe’s tools even more inclusive and accommodating for professional artists and photographers.    Steven Williams 

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c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 6, 2024
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I'm reaching out today to spark a conversation about an issue that touches the core of our creative process using Adobe Photoshop: the censorship implemented in the generative fill feature. This isn't just about the restrictions we face; it's about the fundamental principles of artistic freedom and responsibility.

@ujokasjdflkjawkfjasdf , it seems you might be confusing »AI-based image generation« and »art«. 

A certain AI implementation not readily creating the imagery one wants does not hinder one in creating that imagery as artists have done pre-2023 (or thereabouts) and one can draw, paint, photograph, search stock images, create 3D-models, … just as before or use non-Adobe AI-based image creating applications. 

Participating Frequently
April 5, 2024

Hello Adobe Team and Fellow Creatives,

I'm reaching out today to spark a conversation about an issue that touches the core of our creative process using Adobe Photoshop: the censorship implemented in the generative fill feature. This isn't just about the restrictions we face; it's about the fundamental principles of artistic freedom and responsibility.

Art, in its most profound form, allows us to explore the depths of human experience, pushing boundaries and challenging perceptions. However, the current censorship on generative fill curtails this exploration, imposing limits that are not only unnecessary but also counterproductive to the ethos of creative expression.

Responsibility for the art we create lies with us, the artists. It's essential that Adobe recognizes this, ensuring that tools like Photoshop serve to extend our capabilities, not constrain them. The censorship of content, such as the depiction of scars from battles or surgeries, restricts our ability to tell stories that are meaningful and impactful. Art should confront, console, and celebrate life in all its complexity, and for that, artists need the freedom to depict reality as it is, or imagine it as it could be.

Moreover, the nuances of human form and condition, including aspects like nudity, are foundational to various art forms. The current restrictions hinder not just the creation of art but also the representation of the human experience in its authenticity.

While the intention behind implementing an appeals process is appreciated, it doesn't address the root issue. The process is a workaround, not a solution, and it introduces unnecessary barriers to creativity and expression.

In closing, I urge the Adobe team to reconsider the censorship policies associated with the generative fill feature. Let's empower artists with the freedom to create responsibly, without undue censorship. Adobe has always been at the forefront of creative technologies, and this is an opportunity to lead by example, championing artistic freedom and integrity.

Looking forward to a constructive dialogue and hopeful for a resolution that aligns with the values of our creative community.

c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 27, 2024

For Feature Requests (»Idea«) and Bug Reports this Forum is the correct path to address the Photoshop team/Adobe, otherwise this is essentially a user Forum (though thankfully some Adobe employees do occasionally chime in).

But if you want to make sure your concerns register at Adobe please post a Feature Request.

Even then feedback by Adobe personnel is not guaranteed. 

 

If this strictly concerns the backgrounds you could, as a work-around, add a black-out-layer and work atop that, then remove/hide that layer afterwards. 

StarssonAuthor
Participant
February 29, 2024

Thank you C.pfaffenbichler . Please direct me to the correct dept. Where is the Feature Request located? I appreciate your work-around. 

c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 15, 2024

@Othniel_Ontimo0855 , what is the problem? 

Participant
February 23, 2024

As a dedicated wedding and boudoir photographer, I greatly appreciate the innovative features that Photoshop offers, particularly the AI functionality. It has been an invaluable tool in my workflow, allowing me to efficiently remove unwanted items from the background of my images, thus enhancing the overall aesthetic and ensuring a seamless final product for my clients.

 

However, I keep encountering a significant limitation with the AI feature that has hindered its usability in my line of work and I am really frustrated. It has come to my attention that the current guidelines restrict the use of AI when processing images containing women's bodies in lingerie. According to these guidelines, AI will not generate any edits in such cases, effectively rendering the feature unusable for a significant portion of my photographic work.

 

While I understand the importance of responsible usage guidelines, I believe that the current restrictions are unnecessarily limiting and fail to account for the diverse needs of photographers working in various genres and styles. Boudoir photography, like any other form of art, deserves to benefit from the technological advancements that software such as Photoshop offers, without arbitrary constraints that inhibit its creative potential.

 

What are you guys going to do to fix this?

c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 26, 2024

Feature Requests (Idea) and Bug Reports are registered at Adobe, otherwise this is essentially a user Forum, though thankfully some Adobe employees do occasionally chime in.

So you are not talking to Adobe, but other Photoshop users. 

 

Feel free to post a Feature Request, but please do a search first and if one that reflects your wishes already exists add your support to that. 

Participant
February 15, 2024

I am trying to use generative AI on pictures containing nudity (covered nudity), not eroting in nature etc. only to expand background, why cannot I do this?

 

As I understand, adobe rules is as follows:

Do not use Adobe’s generative AI features to attempt to create, upload, or share abusive, or illegal, or content that violates the rights of others. This includes, but is not limited to, the following:

  • Pornographic material or explicit nudity

And I am trying to do none of those things. Why is adobe assuming I am trying to create or upload abusive material just because it contains naked skin (not even exposed nudity)? I am not even trying to alter the person in the photo in any way but only to expand the damn background. The photo taken during photoshoot on mututally agreed terms.

So effectively we cannot use generative fill as long as adobe detects any kind of exposed skin present on the photo?

Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 16, 2024

Ai is under intense scrutiny and getting bad press from media and governments, so Adobe are being careful not to be seen promoting the misuse of Ai generated images.  

Participant
February 14, 2024

We as the creators should decide what we should create, and their shouldn't be filters telling us what is and is not appropriate, vote to require a setting to be activated for the filter to be on, and we should choose whether to have it on or not.

From Nothing
Participant
April 12, 2024

I completely agree. We all have our own unique reasons for using this tool so there should be virtually no censorship so as long as we aren't using the content to incite violence or something.

Participant
January 25, 2024

Why are images censored? Is it a setting I'm unaware of? And what exactly is forbidden? Because I've had it censor pics that could not possibly be in violation. 

Myra Ferguson
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 25, 2024

Here are Adobe's Generative AI Guidelines:

 

You might check section 2 to see if your prompts fell into any of those categories.

Participant
September 15, 2024

You need to liberalize your guidelines. Censorship of historical events and people makes your product inferior.

ms58149619
Participant
November 11, 2023

So I have this problem - I did pregnancy photoshoot for my client and I would like to extend the white background, the problem is that I cannot use generative fill because the women is naked.All the intimate areas are covered but I still cannot use the generative fill. Is there anyway to go around this restriction or maybe there will be an update that separates extremely nude photography from actual pregnancy shoots? 

gener7
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 11, 2023

If it's a simple background, one thought  is the Crop Tool using Content Aware Fill option.. Just input the Aspect Ratio and if you have a batch of images, make it a Crop Preset.

ms58149619
Participant
November 11, 2023

That's one option but the problem is that my white background is not smooth enough and there are some spots that light was just "ugly" 😅. So I use it to create "new" white background as well, and of course it's way faster then doing content aware fill. And when I used this option it's failed anyway giving me the message that I have not enough ram spece to use this feature which is just ridiculous with 16gb 

Dario de Judicibus
Known Participant
July 10, 2023

I have tried the beta version of FireFly and I find it very interesting, but before tackling the purchase of the official version with a PhotoShop license there is one issue that should be clarified. As an illustrator, I need a tool that produces exactly what I want, without going into the merits. With the beta version I found myself faced with a serious problem. Not only does the AI not accept prompts like "naked woman on piano in black and white" which, in terms of art and photography, are absolutely valid, but also things like "chicken breast on the grill" that I had to generate to associate with a recipe of cooking, which is really ridiculous. Is there a possibility in the paid version to remove these absurd limits?

Participant
July 10, 2023

I also found some restrictions absurd. I wanted to introduce dinosaurs in some photos, and if you enter their scientific names they are all restricted. Because?? and if you can get a dinosaur it's certainly an invention of AI. This is not good.

 

Participant
June 23, 2023

Lots of restrictions on content and censorship on words. Please let it be uncensored or make it 18+ or something like that.