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Kyle_90
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November 5, 2023
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Question About Content Credentials in Adobe FireFly

  • November 5, 2023
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Hello. I wanted to ask a question about the Content Credentials in Adobe FireFly. I generated a Text Effect image from the Adobe FireFly and when I tested the Content Credentials on Verify, it showed there were Content Credentials applied. But, then after I cropped the image, and exported as a PNG, and tested it again on Verify, it showed no Content Credentials were applied.

 

Asking this because in the "Adobe Generative AI Additional Terms" in section 4.1 "Your Responsibilities" that says:

 

"you must not remove or alter any watermarks or Content Authenticity Initiative metadata (e.g., Content Credentials) that may be generated with the Output".

 

Does that mean that I can't edit Adobe FireFly generated images in graphic design software, because after doing so, removes the Content Credentials? Even if not intentional?

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    CMass
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    CMassCommunity Manager
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    November 8, 2023

    @Kyle_90  Adobe does not prohibit users from using creative editing tools that may not be set up to persist Content Credentials metadata on download/export. The restriction in the Generative AI Additional Terms is meant to prevent users from taking actions specifically designed to remove or alter Content Credentials metadata (e.g., intent to mislead others about how the content was created).

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    Kyle_90Author
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    November 8, 2023

    Ok, thank you for the reply!

     

    Another question I had for previous FireFly images as a free user. I have generated images that have a watermark on them, that I would like to sell as sticker files. Would I be able to remove the watermark from those images? Since the FireFly FAQ says: "The watermarked content is still available to be used for commercial purposes." but, I can't sell sticker files with the FireFly logo on them. These two terms seem to contridict themselves, saying that I must not remove any watermarks, but at the same time watermarked content can be used for commercial purposes.

    CMass
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    CMassCommunity Manager
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    November 10, 2023

    @Kyle_90 Anything that is watermarked is not available for commercial use.  Are you thinking about Beta features? 

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      Kyle_90Author
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      November 8, 2023

      I don't want to keep on at this topic, but, I was planning on subscribing to Adobe FireFly. Bu, before I start paying, I would like clarification to the questions and Terms I've mention in this thread. Can someone from Adobe clarify what I've mentioned?

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      Kyle_90Author
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      November 7, 2023

      I just got done chatting with an Adobe support rep about this topic and I'm actually still confused. This is my understanding of what the rep had to say.

       

      They were basically saying that the "you must not remove [...] Content Authenticity Initiative metadata (e.g., Content Credentials) that may be generated with the Output". is only for free users. But, still. Even if a free user edited an AI photo, the Content Credentials would be removed. They went on to say (in my understanding) that paid users can ignore that fact that Content Credentials would be removed. But, why would Adobe have such an important rule in the additional terms that says:

       

      "you must not remove or alter any watermarks or Content Authenticity Initiative metadata (e.g., Content Credentials) that may be generated with the Output".?

       

      I don't see where it says: "Unless you are a paid user, you must not remove or alter any watermarks or Content Authenticity Initiative metadata".

       

      It also sounded like, the rep was saying that wording was because Adobe FireFly was in Beta, but now that it's released, images can be used. Still, the Additional Terms do not say that wording was only for Beta versions.

       

      They also said something like that after editing the photo it now becomes my artwork. Like, the fact it was AI generated can be ignored.

       

      Since I didn't get a conclusive answer, it would be nice for someone at Adobe to give a correct answer.

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      Kyle_90Author
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      November 7, 2023

      As a matter of fact, the Adobe Generative AI Additional Terms say: "Effective as of October 6, 2023". So, that would make me think these terms are for the current models.

        @mj
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        @mjCommunity Expert
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        November 7, 2023

        Hi @Kyle_90 ,

        I'm no legal expert, but it's not you wilfully removing the content credentials.

        It is a work in progress for Adobe from this post. https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/content-credentials.html#:~:text=Content%20Credentials%20are%20a%20new,content%20at%20export%20or%20download.

        For now, it seems to work with Ps, Lr, FF, and Be.

        hth

        mj

        iMSD

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        Kyle_90Author
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        November 7, 2023
        So, would that mean that people can only edit FireFly images in Adobe's editing software? I don't use any of Adobe's editing software.

        It would be helpful if an Adobe employee would reply here and confirm the guidelines around the Content Credentials.
        @mj
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        @mjCommunity Expert
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        November 7, 2023

        Hi @Kyle_90 ,

        I don't believe so, but you're right, it would be helpful to hear directly from Adobe.

        mj

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