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Dave Gustafson
Inspiring
April 25, 2024
Question

V2 verses V3 quality

  • April 25, 2024
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I have extreme respect, admiration for the Firefly team and engineers, but something has gone off the rails concerning the V3 preview. This isn't a question, so I placed it in this section of bugs. If I didn't care about Firefly I wouldn't be here showing examples.

 

These are direct renders of "multiple generations" using V3 preview off the original V2 file. I will show the V2 first, then V3 will follow each image. I kept trying to get a good image from V3, yes it's a preview, but it needs to be addressed. These are the best of the best V3 images. And with that said I'll shut up lol and let you judge.

 

V2

V3

V2

V3

 

V2

 

V3

V2

V3

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22 replies

Participating Frequently
April 27, 2024

I can't even see an Image 1 Model any more

droopydog500
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 27, 2024

Actually, would rather they ditch model 2 and keep 1 and 3.

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@mj
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 27, 2024

Keep the old engines alongside the new. A bit like versions Adobe

Dave Gustafson
Inspiring
April 27, 2024

Wow, that is an even more dramatic visual difference than mine. Maybe the increased realism could be a slider like the current intensity sliders, I dunno. 

droopydog500
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 27, 2024

Here is another example that supports my realistic versus artistic theory.  I created this series of images called "hideous hotel carpeting" making fun of the design patterns used in hotel carpeting.  Here is this same prompt in each of the models.

 

Prompt: endless plush hideous hotel broadloom carpet, repetitive pattern, seamless interlaced geometric design, geometric shapes, random patterns, pink light-blue brown

 

Model 1:

 

Model 2:

 

Model 3:

These were the best images generated for this prompt in these models. Adding styles did not significantly change the results (or at least did not improve them).

Adobe Community Expert (not an Adobe employee)
Inspiring
April 26, 2024

image 3 appears to lack the functionality or image control of image 2. using the same parameters (effects etc)  from image 2 to image 3 produces very different stylistc results. also, working with image 3, application of (ex) movement selections appear to have no effect on the final results.

Kartika Rawat
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 29, 2024

Hi there! 

Sorry to hear that.  Could you share the generated output? Also, provide us the prompt and setting you used to generate images?

 

Thanks,

KR

 

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Inspiring
April 29, 2024

In this example, the subject outputs are similar but the image 3 output appears to be "cleaner" and more of a refined vector illustartion or cartoon vs image 2 outputs which is more "raw". 

 

I expect some variation within each image group. I am applying 7 parameters varation is expected. BUT  as you can see. I tried multiple iterations with both image 2 and image 3. The results within each image group were generally consistant but were markedly different between 2 vs 3. raw vs refined. rough vs vector illuustration.

 

rickg

Dave Gustafson
Inspiring
April 26, 2024

Concerning the frog, the color bleed was caused by a bug when a Chiaroscuro or Film Noir is applied over an image that had it applied previously

Dave Gustafson
Inspiring
April 26, 2024

Links are dead due to a hardware problem

Dave Gustafson
Inspiring
April 25, 2024

This weekend I'll go completely deep dive and see what I can do on my end to circumvent these extreme changes and try to pull a positive out of it. Try to find an artistic path in all of this.

Kartika Rawat
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 25, 2024

Hi there!

Thanks for sharing the detailed post. We appreciate it. Can you post some of the prompts you used to generate images? We'll try them at our end.

 

Thanks again. Happy to help. 

KR

Dave Gustafson
Inspiring
April 25, 2024

Hey Droopy good to see you!

Yes, it's like the realism push is overriding everything, it should be a button, not shoved onto everything in its current state, artistic V1 & V2 are heading out the door, I'm sad to say. To be perfectly honest I feel bad posting this, real bad but I need to speak up. Want to see something that pains me to show?

V2

 

V3

Multiple V3 generations with the V2 file and I get blown out lighting, distortions, color bleed in B&W photo, etc.., This is after 10 generations, the best of the best and I have this to show.