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July 30, 2023
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AE PERFORMANCE NIGHTMARE - Good PC, Perfectly Optimized. What is going on!

  • July 30, 2023
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I've been fighting with AE for quite some time now. I've saught help from numerous editing friends, adobe themselves, hours of my own research and still no luck. 

 

The Problem:

My little M1 16gb ram macbook runs CIRCLES around my windows rig... Even trying to preview raw untouched 4k 60 footage straight out of my camera in after effects TAKES AGES. We're talking 5 minutes just to ram render 5 seconds to watch in real time. It's so bad I generally run Premiere Pro AND AE at the same time just so I can preview the footage smoothly and just copy my cut up sections respectively. I'd say general AE performance overall is slow, I'm not sure if this is just limited to preview. AE runs much smoother with 1080p footage of course, but even still I think my little macbook runs MUCH faster. I have reinstalled AE multiple times as well, this doesn't fix my issue either. Is there something I'm missing? Could it be a conflict with one of my plugins making AE run slow? I am going to share my machine specs, software, AE settings everything I have so see if maybe theres something wrong there. 

 

My thoughts:

I'm thinking this is a low storage issue somewhere. My 240gb SSD that windows is installed on is the C drive, and it only has 45gb of storage free. Since it's the main drive, even though I have my disk cache sent elsewhere I feel that there's some kind of background temp files being made to store project data or something that's filling that drive (but not actually) and it's causing everything to run slow. I have AE and my other adobe apps installed on my slower 4TB Bulk Drive because of all the stuff it comes with, keep in mind no performance issues on any of the others to my knowledge, but there's still alot of data adobe grabs and shares from that C drive and the NVMe for disk cache. I could potentially move AE by itself over to the NVMe as well and see what that does, but I'm deathly terrified the move is going to make me lose an old animation preset or something important I cannot afford to lose. It's taken me years to get a good workflow and set everything up how I want it. Having to restart from scratch would cripple me more than just dealing with the slow AE to begin with, so that's really not an option for me. I hope SOMETHING in here sparks someone's ears that had this same issue, please help! I make videos and edit almost every day of my life, If my AE just ran right I could get things done in a day or less instead of weeks. Thank you!

 

PC Specs: 

Ryzen 9 5900x

64gb Corsair Dom Plat DDR4

RTX 3070Ti

2TB NVMe SSD - 750gb reserved for disk cache

4TB SSHD Bulk Storage Drive

240gb Normal SSD for windows

- I use thunderbolt 7000mb/s External hard drives to store my footage, as I move from my windows PC to my mac quite frequently.

 

AE Settings:

- Previewing footage in 1/4 Resolution

- 64gb of ram reserved for Adobe, 10gb for other apps

- Enable Multi-Frame rendering ON (I have messed with this ON and OFF, it runs much MUCH better with)

- 750GB Disk Cache on NVMe Drive

- Conformed media cache on 4TB Bulk Drive

 

Prerequisites:

-Latest Nvidia Studio Drivers (Always keep them up to date)

-Experimented with multiple AE versions, same problem across all. Currently on AE 2023 ver. 23.5

-Windows up to date

- Disk Cache gets cleared/purged every time I open AE

 

Background Programs Running:

* I generally try to keep down on my background programs, but heres what I usually have running - Closing out of all of that stuff has zero effect.*

 

- Display Fusion (Multiple Monitor Background Thing)

-Geforce Experience/Nvidia Stuff

-Discord

-NZXT CAM (Monitoring & Cooling)

-MSI After Burner (I fine tune GPU fan speeds when editing sometimes)

- Creative Cloud

- G.SKILL Trident Z Lighting Control (RAM RGB)

-Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming Engine (Motherboard RGB)

-iCUE  (Corsair Keyboard RGB)

 

AE Plugins (Same Issue with & without plugins installed)

- Shake Sauce

- Flow (Graphing Plugin)

- LA Forge

- Boris FX Sapphire

- Twixtor 

- RSMB 

 

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2 replies

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 31, 2023

HEVC is not a RAW video format.  While it may be camera original, it is not "raw".  It's compressed H265.  Depending on the bir rate, it may be highly compressed H265.  

 

Try setting your Composition Resolution to Custom 1/8.

Try setting your Preview settings to skip frames.  Shift + Numpad 0 should be set to skip 1 frame.  Try skipping 2 or more.

 

Try working between Premiere Pro and After Effects.  Rather than review footage in the Footage Panel of After Effects, insert all of your source into a Premiere Pro Timeline, set In and Out as needed, then copy and paste from the Premiere Pro Timeline to the After Effects Timeline.  Immediately after pasting to After Effects, move the Current Time Indicator to where the clip should start and then press Left Brackat ("[") to move the selected Layer to that time.  Better yet, lock your cut in Premiere Pro before sending the Timeline (or segments of the Timeline) to After Effects.

 

Try transcoding source to ProRes 422 LT.  (Note: that will require about 3GB pre minute, but frame independent formats are like that.)

 

For HEVC 4K source without transcoding, a 13th generation Intel with QuickSync is probably the best CPU to be using right now (followed by Apple Silicon then 12th gen Intel) in both Premeire Pro and After Effects. 

 

Upgrading to a higher capacity, but still high speed boot drive could not hurt.  Same for Media Cache.

 

 

 

ToolfarmJP
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 31, 2023

Would you confirm the anti-virum app is turned off?

 

 

Participant
July 31, 2023

I have no anti-virus software what so ever. The only thing anti-virus at all on my system is the built in windows stuff.