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kazpar0071
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October 18, 2012
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After Effects & Premiere Pro...the order of creation.

  • October 18, 2012
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Hi

I am creating a 2-minute film for educational purposes. This film must contain effects using Adobe After Effects and be put together on Adobe Premiere Pro.

I have completed the filming, and now have all the individual clips ready for work.

So which order do I do the editing?

Put the clips together on Premiere, and then import the completed sequence into After Effects and add the effects?

OR

Put the effects on the individual clips using After Effects, and import these into Premiere Pro to create the sequence.

Please help, it's my first time using After Effects. I am learning the software. I am an expert on Premiere, but clearly lack editing + post production + effects on a larger scale.

Thanks.

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kazpar0071Author
Participant
October 29, 2012

Thanks guys, appreciate the help

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Anonymous
October 19, 2012

kazpar0071 wrote:

Hi

I am creating a 2-minute film for educational purposes. This film must contain effects using Adobe After Effects and be put together on Adobe Premiere Pro.

I have completed the filming, and now have all the individual clips ready for work.

So which order do I do the editing?

Put the clips together on Premiere, and then import the completed sequence into After Effects and add the effects?

Yes. In the Adobe video editing world, PPro is the centeral program. The other programs revolve around PPro. I don't know that it's logical. However, that's the reality of it. Unless you really like swimming against the current, start your editing process with PPro.

preditorj40153117
preditorj40153117
Inspiring
October 21, 2012

kazpar0071

I am a little guy who gets schooled quite a lot in these forums. However i do have a set of workflows that i stick to. I am sure my little 150-ish projects does not add up to most of the pros here but.........

Video with some text and CC:

1. cut in PPro

2. CC and add text in AE.

then export from PPro 80% of the time.

3. Sb or SoundTrack Pro for sound

GFX Heavy with some footage:

1. Under 2mins of footage ALL AE

Then Sb for sound

2. Over 3min of footage PPro > AE for CC and GFX > PPro > Soundbooth (Sb)

All GFX:

AE > Sb

4+mins of footage with heavy composite:

PPro for the cut

C4D for 3d modeling (CS6 does basic 3d text now)

Back to PPro to ship the SEQ to AE 

OBJ or tiff seq import of the c4d project into AE

AE for CC and composite

Export from AE lossless

Close AE and DL (which is automtic) back to PPro

Preview lossless export

Fine tune look (magicbullet and others) in PPro

Then its Sb once again.

Its not set in stone. You have to determine the best way based on whats needed. In CS5 i would often use Apple Color for CC or for sound create a .mov for Protools instead of Sb. I have even committed the Adobe sin of using Motion instead of AE. (dont ask me why)

I also write my workflow in a text doc along with any workarounds or problems i encounter and save the document to the clients folder if it strays from the usual. I actually highly reccomend that so you can go back into these notes to remember how you have handled previous projects and problems.

cfg_2451

I have always wondered why PPro was the central but it does make since. I thought CS6 would allow us to go from PPro > AE > Sb and out throught media encoder all dynamicly linked before MediaEncoder (ME). I wanted it to allow that chain and even back to PPro from SB instead of ME to be rendered and tweaked.

And to sound completely crazy i would also like to be able to save in that chan at any point before ME.

    Pierre Devereux
    Pierre Devereux
    Known Participant
    October 19, 2012

    Hi,

    Sorry to hijack the thread, but I am also interrested here. Say the project is a full half hour show, and almost every shot will have composited characters in it, is it then best to do the compositing in AE first, and then cut all the edited clips together? I have a bad feeling I have asked this somewhere before, but being Friday (and still no sign of Junior Devereux's first tooth - other than the lack of sleep that is) I hope the oversight will be forgiven!

    Pierre

    Jonas Hummelstrand
    Jonas Hummelstrand
    Participating Frequently
    October 19, 2012

    You only want to work with frames that will be used in the final edit,

    right? If possible, lock the edit and then work on just the used

    frames in AE, either by rendering out the edit out of Premiere Pro (to

    a lossless, or close to lossless codec with minimal compression and

    maximum bit depth,) or by copying the sequences out of Premiere Pro

    and pasting them into AE (my preferred way of working.)

    Jonas Hummelstrand
    Jonas Hummelstrand
    Participating Frequently
    October 18, 2012

    Edit first in PPro, then use Dynamic Link (I usually copy and then paste into AE.)

    K
    kazpar0071Author
    Participant
    October 18, 2012

    Sorry I don't understand what the Dynamic Link is.

    So import all the clips + everything else into Premiere Pro, put them together to create the film, then copy + paste the whole sequence into After Effects?

    Or save it (but how) and import into AE?

    Sorry for being trouble.

    Kp

    lasvideo
    lasvideo
    Inspiring
    October 19, 2012

    Google is your friend. Here is some info you should read to learn more about the software you are using.

    http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WS318FB3AB-E1D1-40f7-9FD9-BB04A6F6A465.html

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