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July 15, 2019
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Is this normal behavior for Ram Preview?

  • July 15, 2019
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Hey Thrill Seekers,

I have an AE project with quite a few elements.  All have some sort of adjustment or mask.  So a render for a 1:45 project is taking about an hour and a half.  I'm OK with that.  But...when I have to edit any little thing at all, on any element, even if it has little effect on any other element, my green Ram preview line goes away and I have to create the whole dang preview frame by painful frame.  Very, very (very) tedious. 

I'm new to AE, so I have to be missing something significant. 

thoughts?

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    Correct answer Andrew Yoole

    Great points. 

    Resolution:  Oh...I shot myself in the foot on this one.  Long story explained here (which is what the piece is all about): Breakfast Rewind on Vimeo I stupidly started with the full rez photoshop piece the client had returned to me, which I used as a template.  So I'm working in 8K, and previewing at 1/4, even tried 1/8th. 

    I'm not doing the entire piece in AE, but as you suggest I am spitting the AE clip to Premiere for final composition (at 4K...finally)

    Re expressions.  None.  I've just learned OF them and am eager to learn about them. 

    In retrospect, I suppose I should be thankful it worked at all. 

    It looks like you nailed it with the newbie-expectations.  I was editing a small shadow/dark area on a red apple in the upper left of the image.  It was my understanding that AE was smart enough to know that changes to that would not affect 36 of the other 40 layers (made up numbers, I didn't count) and would therefore do the Ram Preview faster, not having to start from scratch.   BUT...when that little green "I"m ready" line disappears and it chugs frame by frame it feels like ground zero. 

    Is my understanding correct that AE is that smart and I simply have a time perception issue?  I suppose I could time how long it takes to preview, then make changes to 10 layers and time that to see if it takes substantially longer. 

    Anyway.  Thank you so much for your input. 


    Rendering more than a couple of seconds at 8K resolution is the best most high-end systems could hope for.  Presumably you don't have 8K monitors - maybe not even 4K - so rendering in full res is simply useless.  Your display card would be incapable of displaying that many pixels anyway.

    Your attempts at previewing at 1/4 or 1/8 are far more realistic, 1920x1080 is feasible for short previews, and 960x540 is a very workable resolution. 

    Cinemas don't even display the resolutions you're working at. Don't get sucked into the mega-resolution hype.  Most audiences are oblivious to the difference between HD and 4K.  If your content is being viewed online, it will probably never been seen at higher resolution than 1920x1080.  Unless you're displaying your final product on 8K TV screens for some reason, re-work your project at 4K (if you must) or 1920x1080. 

    And yes, changing one layer in an AE comp may very well require re-building the preview (green line) for the duration of that layer.  After Effects has got much better over the years at cacheing and preserving rendered content, but it's wise to expect that anytime you edit a layer, that whole layer may have to re-render in your preview.  That's why you should always approach AE projects in little chunks, and don't expect to ever see the whole project in one go until you do a real render.

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    Kyle Hamrick
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 15, 2019

    Is this a project you built yourself, or a downloaded template?
    What are your machine specs like?

    Andy PostAuthor
    Inspiring
    July 15, 2019

    Built myself. 

    Machine

    quad Core i7 3.00GHz

    Quadro K3000 (2gb I think)

    32Gb Ram

    Kyle Hamrick
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 16, 2019

    Not a beast, but seems like it should still run things ok unless you're getting higher-res.

    Some newer users have incorrect expectations about how AE works - i.e. people approach it like a video editor, and get frustrated when it doesn't work as such. Especially as a project gets heavier, you're likely going to need to do previews at lower resolution and/or skip frames.

    Are you doing your previews at full resolution? If so, you're essentially doing the same process as actually exporting it. Also, it's not realistic to expect to preview a 1:45 project fully in AE. You'll be wanting to break it down into smaller portions for previewing, and you may only be able to watch the entire thing after exporting. Depending on the nature of the project, exporting multiple smaller pieces and reassembling in Premiere can be a more convenient workflow.

    It's likely there are ways to streamline the overall build/workflow/effects usage/etc., but without being able to see more, it's hard to say.

    What's your resolution like?


    Have you used any expressions in your project? Depending on how those are used, it can force recalculating the whole composition, potentially.

    Just a handful of things that came to mind. More information about your project will give us the ability to give better advice.