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Paint performance

Forum|Forum|1 year ago
February 6, 2025
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Hi

Does anybody else find AE's Paint performance, politely put, poor?

Using Mac Studio with the latest AE version.

Today I got really frustrated. Usually, AE starts to crawl and freeze after some +1000 Clone Stamp strokes. You may be able to continue by duplicating the Paint effect, clearing the strokes and resuming fresh.

Now, I have a normal-ish 20-second 4K clip, (Prores 4444, Arri LogC3). AE freezes completely after 70 - 100 tiny strokes. Nothing fancy - just a basic clone brush. RGB, single frame stroke, clone source from the same layer.

I have tried:

clearing caches,

disabling all other layers and effects,

Safe Mode (all third-party plugins disabled),

changing METAL to Renderer to Mercury Software Only,

using a small Region of Interest,

opening a new fresh project and starting over,

half resolution (you really can't work this way),

precomping,

downgrading AE versions...

Nothing alarming with Mac's memory usage.

Would not want to start over the fifth time. Getting gradually angry with all AE problems!

So, I guess it's a Photoshop video sequence then ☹ Very limited output formats.

[What do you know, Photoshop project saves the timeline too! After finishing my first test sequence I Copied a Premiere Prores .epr preset to the Photoshop video preset folder (I knew Premiere would be useful one day), opened the saved PSD file with all the video timeline and rendered out Prores4444.

EXCEPT - how to make Photoshop open the Prores in 16-bit. Changing the Image Mode in PS menu was not enough ☹ Rendered output was not original bit depth.]

To be honest, I wish AE Paint tools would be even close to Photoshop.

Does anybody have any better suggestions, please?

TheFosterHouse

Known Participant

I run into this issue ALL THE TIME. Temporal clone paint is the worst offender. The AE Paint system is horrible. constantly purging the cache, restarting the application, even restarting the machine does NOTHING. I’ve tried prerendering source, changing color spaces and previews, nothing works. AE will lock up for 1-3 minutes PER PAINT STROKE. if i move the mouse while its locked up the clone stroke will be where i moved the mouse while AE was locked up. this means i need to delete the paint stroke and do it all over again. this is infuriating. FIX THIS

nishu_kush

Community Manager

That is not ideal. Sorry to hear about the issue.

Could you share your system specifications (CPU, GPU, RAM, OS version)? Does it happen with all the media files, or is there a specific media/specific media type?

Looking forward to your response.

Thanks,

Nishu

TheFosterHouse

Known Participant

@TheFosterHouse AMD Threadripper 3970X, Nvidia Quatro RTX 6000, 64GB Ram, Win 10 Pro. I’m usually painting on image sequences, mainly EXRs. I have mixed success with switching to Software only on Video Rendering and Effects. I use the Clone source overlay constantly and found waiting for it to activate in the layer window is the best bet on getting it to work, but that can take just as long. much of the time it won’t update unless i draw a stroke, then undo it, then it will work. even then, if the first stroke works, the second one probably won’t and teh first one is 50% chance of locking up the machine as well.

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raelliott

Participant

Coming back to say this problem persists for me still, months later. Tried a clean install of AE and I just cannot use the paint tools without AE immediately going white/locking up.

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hi @Rocketbottle,

Have your tried purging cache more frequently? That can help. Here are some other steps you can take to optimize your workflow: https://adobe.ly/4hri0yX. I hope the community might offer more specific troubleshooting steps shortly. Sorry for the frustration.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio

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raelliott

Participant

Just wanted to hop in and say this has also been my experience lately, it's incredibly frustrating. Usually what will happen is it ends up being one frame in particular that it locks up on, to the point where I just have to crash the app and go back to an autosave. I'm on Windows 10, NVIDIA 4090, i9-14900HX, and 96gb of ram. I've been purging cache as I go and have also tried a number of your troubleshoots, to no avail.

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