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E Cook
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January 30, 2017
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Why doesn't media encoder use same frame numbers as after effects comps when you export?

  • January 30, 2017
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I render out a lot of image sequences at work, b/c if you have a small change in the middle of an animation with lots of layers and effects, overwriting a few frames is a lot faster than a whole mp4. It drives me crazy that I can't patch up a few frames in the middle of a sequence with media encoder. I have to take the time to let AE render them, or downsave to another version which is inefficient.

Why isn't there the option of using the same frames numbers as the after effects comp that's been exported? I officially request this option in future updates. Unless anyone knows of a work around? I haven't been able to find one.

Correct answer Joost van der Hoeven

This is user to user forum where we users help each other. The Adobe engeneers do not always read everything here. If you feel strongly about a (new)feature or (bug) fix please post it on uservoice, as it will be read by the engeneers: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911311-after-effects

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Joost van der Hoeven
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Joost van der HoevenCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
December 10, 2021

This is user to user forum where we users help each other. The Adobe engeneers do not always read everything here. If you feel strongly about a (new)feature or (bug) fix please post it on uservoice, as it will be read by the engeneers: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911311-after-effects

Inspiring
December 14, 2021

Thanks.  I've posted there as well already, but I appreciate the head's up.

Participant
June 15, 2021

It's a nightmare, still in 2021... ME always starts with frame 0, and I miss the "skip existing frames" option.
I simply cannot understand how a company that takes so much money per month can try so hard to make work uncomfortable for its customers.

Inspiring
December 10, 2021

I would think the easiest solution would be for them to put an option in media encoder for "starting frame number" rather than defaulting to _000.  That way it doesn't need any fancy coding to connect to AE or Premiere and figure out the comp range and starting frame or anything like that.  Just something simple in your PNG (or other image) sequence settings that lets you set the starting number.  I would think that would solve this for most of us. 

Roland Kahlenberg
Legend
February 24, 2021

There's a much better workflow and it involves rendering, from AE, to a very high quality MOV. Then use PPro to double-check the animation, re-sync or add in audio stuff or even perform minor edits. Then, should a specific range require re-rendering in AE, just render out the required range and drop it appropriately in PPro — for such 'repair' renders, I add the Start TC of the 'repair' render's range into the filename to quickly indicate where in time to drop in the MOV. From PPro, with a very high quality Timeline, it's easy and quick to render out to an MP4. You also get the benefit of using PPro's Auto Reframe feature. And when it's time to archive your project, you have a high quality MOV as well as a PPro Project on hand. This workflow may take a bit of time to get accustomed to but the benefits are awesome.

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Participant
May 28, 2021

2021 year stupid Adobe can`t FIX this  issue. 

Participant
February 24, 2021

Same issue here, would love to use media encoder to save frames that correspond to the current project, regardless of what section of the project I'm rendering. 

Smachia
Participant
November 20, 2020

Same issue. Not just that, but can't net render without overwriting frames. It should just skip to the next image in the sequence. What's the point of a watch folder if every computer in the network is overwriting each other?

Known Participant
July 26, 2020

Hi I just want to give my support to all of you guys trying to explain what original poster means, yes we need Adobe Media Encoder to not offer less rendering options than After Effects itself as it is supposed to be a dedicated rendering software, and yet if you need it to name the files according to frame number the same way After Effects does it, you can't, and this doesn't make sense.
If you never encountered this issue or don't care about it, then fine it doesn't apply to your workflow, but for some of us it does, and it is really weird that AE would offer that and they took that feature out for AME. The point os AME is to free AE so you can keep working while you render... And this is not a technical limitation, just poor coordination in the coding department.

Participant
September 11, 2020

I'm frustrated by the same issue, but with Premiere instead of AE. The bummer is, in addition to AME, Premier native export doesn't support "comp frame numbers" (timecode) either.

 

My project uses a lot of heavy filters, and exporting the whole timeline is very slow. In the past Premiere has also sometimes crashed in the middle of the render, so it would be really nice to be able to re-export only parts of the timeline at a time and get frame numbers correct.

Inspiring
March 12, 2020

Hi there, I'm having exact same issue - no disrespect to Dave but he's just not understood the problem and this question is most definitely not answered.

I'm at a clients office and the setup is CC 2019 (and there I was thinking I was being a smarty pants rendering to PNG instead of a complete movie.... FACEPALM)

Participating Frequently
January 7, 2020

I'm facing the same issue. I'm rendering using AME (as I think adobe wants me to).

Simply setting the name to frame.0123.exr instead of frame..exr should result in starting the naming at 0123 in my opinion.

Participant
October 4, 2019

I thought of a work around this issue, save the sequence to a different folder and use a batch naming program to rename the frame numbers. Just google batch rename files and you will find many ways to do it. 
After you've properly named them move them back to the original sequence and replace the old frames.

weichenw
Participant
July 17, 2019

Great, so by the time I post, AME still can't do it. By reading thru the whole post, I reckon Dave didn't get it...It's such a pain in the arse. Is it such a difficult task to implement such a simple feature into AME?

Anyways, what I usually end up doing is to batch rename those sequence images in Bridge, which has a simple and straightforward batch renaming command.

Participant
October 4, 2019
I'm having the same issue, it was painful to read through Dave's answer. How can it be that hard to understand that the issue is PRECISELY to render a sequence in AME with proper naming? The guy goes around and around talking about MP4 and being condescending. Jesus, that's frustrating.