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Inspiring
January 5, 2024
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Br 12 vs Br Beta -- performance results

  • January 5, 2024
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Before beginning, I should probably post up my pedigree.  I was invited into the Bridge prerelease program ca. 2005-06 by Chris Cox.  I have tested every prerelease, release, and beta version of Bridge since then.  That’s likely in the vicinity of 100+ versions and many thousands of volunteer hours invested in assisting Adobe in the development of Bridge. 

 

I have used Br as the primary asset management tool in our studio’s production environment for all that time.  It is unlikely that anyone in this conversation has significantly more experience in testing and using Bridge in a high-volume production studio than I do.  My testing parameters have been refined over the years to provide the most accurate, predictable, and repeatable results. It works well in all our studio folder hierarchies. Your conditions are not ours, so your milage may vary.

 

Here are the parameters of my most recent performance comparison.  The test bed is a brand-new Windows 11 laptop with an AMD processer comparable to a higher end i7 laptop. 

 

The attached videos will demonstrate the relative efficiency of Br 12 vs the latest beta build of Br 14 when browsing a hierarchy of folders that contains the following:

  • Total file size of the folder hierarchy 14,659 MB
  • Number of folders: 25
  • Number of files: 4076
  • Roughly half of the files are a mix of Psd, Png, and Tif files.  The vast majority of those are less than 4 megabytes each.  The other half are proprietary txt files (.flame / .chaos) that serve the same purpose to their parent software as .Xmp files serve to their companion RAW files.  Those are only a few kilobytes each.

I have given both Br 12 and Br beta their own independent cache location on the primary drive. All of the files have been cached in advance by both builds to eliminate caching behavior as a performance variable.

 

The process of the test should be obvious from the linked videos below, but in short, Bridge is launched and a folder hierarchy is collapsed to reveal all the assets in that hierarchy. Immediately an attempt is made to operate on those assets, in this case using various filters to narrow the selection down.  This is a common daily activity in our studio.

 

It has been well known for many years that there is typically a slight delay when accessing the subfolders of a hierarchy while Br accesses the cache and generates thumbs. Accessing thumbs from the cache takes some time. The performance in the filter panel in Br 12 and earlier is not affected by this.  Br 13 trashed that performance, and the results still remain in Br 14 as you will see in the following videos.

 

Also notice the fact that the valuable arrow keys on the panel scroll bars were eliminated with the first Br 13 release and never returned to the interface, while giving no equally valuable alternative in return. The feature was simply removed, or perhaps more accurately never incorporated into the new architecture. Why?

 

As far as the conversation about scrolling speed of thumbnails is concerned, I would submit that hobbyists and other casual users may not notice the inconvenience.  On the other hand there are many, many highly skilled artisans who have had their studio’s productivity severely compromised by this defect.  It took years of effort, testing and feedback from prerelease testers to help Adobe establish the performance level of Br 12.  A great deal of that progress has been severely damaged or destroyed by the new architecture.  Of that much I am certain.

 

I’ve seen a number of inconsequential features added to Br over the years, but at least those changes have always been easy to simply ignore. The destruction of years old professional workflows that has been wrought by the subjugation of Br 12 by Br 13-14 is impossible to ignore. The pity is that Adobe was repeatedly warned about this eventuality beginning almost 20 months ago, before Br 13 ever became a public release.

 

Here are links to the head-to-head testing results of Br 12 vs the latest Br 14 beta. I’ll leave them on Dropbox for a bit, but I’d recommend downloading the two files to your local drive for the most accurate results.

 

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Known Participant
January 18, 2024

Hi, what is the best version number for Bridge right now?
Be more specific, is it 12.0.3.270?
The new version 2024 is slow and too memory intensive 。。。。。

BruceVIAuthor
Inspiring
January 19, 2024

The only version available to me in the CC app is 12.0.4.286.  I believe it to be the last release version of 2022 (Br 12).

Known Participant
January 19, 2024

thank you!

Participant
January 11, 2024

Thanks for the demo.  I’m seeing some of the same type of lag in the folder panel when moving up and down through subfolders.  Sometimes it takes several clicks on the carrot next to the folder name to get the subfolders to show and hide.  It isn’t a constant.  It’s more random and not really reproduceable in a bug report.  Is anyone else seeing this annoying random behavior?

Erik Bloodaxe
Legend
January 11, 2024

Yes, I observe similar lags. In particular when I click on a folder to access its subfolders, sometimes two or three attempts is necessary to accomplish this opening. The delay is frustrating at times.

Inspiring
January 7, 2024

Thank you for making such a good comparison. The 13-14 is a clear sign that something is very broken at adobe. Or at least, the adobe team.

I have made several posts about this being very blunt about the fact that Bridge 13-14 IS broken. i have never gotten any feedback what so ever. One time they actually connected to my computer to see how slow Bridge was. They said they could replicate the problem. but when the final version came out, it was barely noticeable. Maybe a few %.

 

I for one really like the idea behind the tabs. It's really usefull. But if THATS the reason everything is broken, then it really has to go. I, as many other, cant upgrade from 12 yet. Its like 13-14 is a highly experimental Alpha not intended for relase.

 

WHAT happened to the team? Have they been replaced by a new without the knowledge. WTF is going on? This is truly beginning to look like Bridge is going away or replaced by some simplyfied mobile app not directed to the pro-market. With lots and lots of AI GUESSING what images you want to cull for the day. I dont know 🙂

 

So, thanks again for this post.

 

Moving on. Since we dont get any answers from the team, does anyone have any contact info to people higher up the chain? Maybe go straight to the CEO and let them know whats going on?

 

Since it's the company is based in the US the hierarchy is probably very compartmentalized and people higher up doesnt have a clue about whats going on. otherwise there would probably be layoffs.

 

So, any mails we can start to spam to get the wheels going?? 🙂

BruceVIAuthor
Inspiring
January 8, 2024

Maz.  You said: "I for one really like the idea behind the tabs"

 

You said "tabs" which have been around as long as Br has.  Were you intending to refer to the new tear-off panel feature  instead? 

Inspiring
January 8, 2024

Yes

Legend
January 5, 2024

I'm currently working my way through a set of about 90,000 files, local SSD on a 2019 MacBook Pro, about 90% JPEG with a few PNG and the rest PSD files, dual displays, mostly with two Bridge windows open and a number of my custom scripts running. Bridge 12 is somewhat ok for performance until it (repeatedly) crashes. Bridge 13 and 14 are pretty much unusable in this scenario. I have to use Spotlight for Quick Search (upper right corner) because Bridge search regularly misses files. User apps running are VSCode, Photoshop, and Bridge 12.

I wouldn't drive Bridge this hard if I didn't need to but doing product photography professionally, this is how it goes.