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Keywords and Subkeywords Display

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January 8, 2018
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I'm new to Bridge so please be patient if this is a basic question. I initially set up my photos with a hierarchy of keywords and subkeywords. In my case the Keywords are surnames with subkeywords for each individual person with that surname. Not I am seeing all of the subkeywords (individual people) listed in alphabetical order only. I am not seeing the Keywords (surnames) listed alphabetically with Subkeywords as "subfolders" under them. Can anyone help? Do I just have something set incorrectly in View? (The display was correct until I had to reload Bridge after a hard drive crash.) Thanks.

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Stephen Marsh

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What OS and version etc? Mac OS High Sierra has had many reported issues of alphabetical display in various areas of Adobe software.

Can you provide a cropped screenshot of the keywords panel display with an image selected and the keywords/sub-keywords expanded?

Also a view of a selected image with File/File Info and the Raw tab might be useful, ensure that you show the keywords area so that the forum can see how the raw XMP data is structured.

Finally, your Bridge preferences, Keywords has three checkboxes which may or may not come into play.

ruthr84834777Author

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Thanks for the reply. I am using Windows 10. The only thing I get in Keywords is an alphabetical listing of my Subkeywords.

When I created the Keyword structure I had surnames for Keywords and specific people names as Subkeywords. For instance, I originally had the structure shown below (using some of the keywords above) but what I am getting is shown in the screenshot.

Woodie

Bertie Thomas Woodie 1904-1968

George Thomas Woodie 1934-1992

Wheeler

Audrey Luetta Belle Wheeler 1927-1978

Carolyn Alice Krout Wheeler 1870-1946

I am no longer getting a hierarchy - just everything mixed together. Nothing can be expanded.

All the subkeywords seem to be there, but it doesn't look like the keywords (just surnames) are there. Could that be because the actual Keywords didn't have any photos tagged? That is, because I only used Subkeywords as tags. I assumed that if I had 10 photos of various people listed as subkeywords under a Keyword (e.g., like 10 various Woodie individuals under the Woodie Surname Keyword) that I would be able to search by the Keyword Woodie and see all 10. Is that not correct? Not a problem if it doesn't work that way, but I can't figure out why the structure isn't showing up as it did when created.

Let me know if I'm showing you enough to figure out what I'm trying to say!

Thanks

Stephen Marsh

Community Expert

I asked earlier – as results will depend on how are your prefs setup…

If the first 2 options are blank, then only the child or sub-keyword will be applied as a single DC:Subject and legacy IPTC:Keywords metadata entry.

If the first option is active, then both the parent keyword and the child keyword will be applied as two separate DC:Subject and legacy IPTC:Keywords metadata list entries.

If the second option is active, then both the parent keyword and the child keyword will be applied as DC:Subject and legacy IPTC:Keywords metadata entry, however this will entered as a “single keyword” rather than as two separate keyword list entries… So in Bridge you would not see the parent keyword ticked, although this data would be included in the metadata.

With all 3 settings, Lightroom hierarchical keywords are being created, even if Bridge hierarchical keywords are not created.

I have put together a little .zip archive containing 3 screenshots showing the effects of these preference settings on the applied keyword metadata. This may help you to understand what is going on a little better.

Dropbox - Bridge-Keyword-Preference-Results-x3.zip

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