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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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VJCortezJr

Participant

Great idea, but I don't think its ready yet. I used the BEST setting. See my before and after pics. I know this is a new setting, and I am not expecting perfection. But I think this tool will be one where either it works or it doesnt.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This is a new feature, so please watch for updates and improvements.

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Edwin29468440kcj9

Participant

hello

love all the features you bring .

Like remove refelctions, i also have read you bring this also in small objects.

Do you have an idea when this is coming to Lightroom.

And also maybe the possibility to adjust it with a mask.

hope to see it soon. 🙂

Edwin

Conrad_C

Community Expert

Do you have an idea when this is coming to Lightroom.
By @Edwin29468440kcj9

It’s probably coming. It’s already in Lightroom Classic, but I don’t see it in Lightroom on my iPad yet.

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robertaperrone

Participant

guys, I've got this kind of image so something is not really working

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Please report your system information.

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RovingPhoto

Participant

I tried this for an image I took of a cell phone user taking the same picture. (I was behind her) Unfortunately, the AI did nothing for just the phone glass. And since this was the only glass glare, the image was not improved. I look forward to the update where we can either choose where to apply the glare removal or the AI finds smaller areas (like phones) in the image itself.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This is a photo of the ocean, a large rock formation, the sky, and someone's hands holding a cell phone. There is not a pane of glass between the camera and those subjects, so the intended result is for no reflection to be removed. The remove reflections tool has correctly detected that there is no glass, and so it has correctly done nothing.

Please check out the Adobe blog to learn more about what this tool does.

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DFord32924471

Participant

This is a nice feature, but I was not able to remove the reflection from the eye glasses that my freind was wearing

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Eye glasses are not supported. Please checkout the Adobe blog to learn more about what this tool does. This tool removes reflections from glass that covers your camera's field of view. It is designed to leave small reflections within the scene untouched. The blog discusses future improvements near the bottom, so do check it out.

meilcowski

Participant

Example for the developent team where it didnt work well. before and after uploaded. Trying to take a picture of the "christmas Story movie" leg lamp in the window, and it removed the wrong reflections from the image.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

The tool is not supposed to remove any reflections from this photo. The fact that it removed the leg lamp is a red herring.

This is a photo of a family standing in front of a window. Also pictured are a porch, a window frame, and a window. There is not a pane of glass between the camera and those subjects. This tool should therefore do nothing. It made a mistake by removing something.

If you'd like, you can open the -100 and +100 images as layers in photoshop. You may be able to blend those images together to produce the result you wanted. But, this photo is not representative of the kinds of photos for which the tool is designed. Checkout the Adobe blog to learn more about this tool, and future plans.

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ChrisOgden

Participating Frequently

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ChrisOgden

Participating Frequently

fwiw, this is an example that consistently fails: shooting through vehicle windows inside-out (ie, see white usb cable, dashboard on the bottom right of window). (note: I tried uploading original iphone .HEIC, but the form disallows, so did quick convert to jpg)

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Chris, is this photo only in HEIC format? Remove reflecions will work best when it is applied to RAW images.

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EIMO34043688pfdi

Participating Frequently

I took up the solution suggested by ‘Chapps-LA’ and consistently preset ‘Best Mode’. In fact, it worked once with an ARW file (Sony) – for the first time ever. However, with the second RAW photo, the anti-glare process was interrupted again within the programme after the bar had been visible for about a second. After that, it no longer worked with any photos.

I also have the impression that when the de-reflecting process crashes, something gets ‘stuck’, as if a process in the background is not being completed. This is because it happens repeatedly that when I want to remove the reflection from image A and then (after the process is interrupted internally by the programme) switch to image B in the image scroll bar at the bottom, image A continues to be displayed in the ‘Develop’ workspace. I then have to go back to the library, select image B there, and then return to the ‘Develop’ area, where it is then displayed correctly in the workspace.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Please post your system information.

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rotbaer

Participant

iMac
Retina 5K, 27 Zoll, 2019
3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5
Radeon Pro 570X 4 GB
16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4
Macintosh HD 1TB
15.5 (24F74)

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kellicia_4718

Participant

Is there a way to just mask a specific area that has reflections? When I apply the reflection removal tool to actually remove the spot on one side of the image, the rest of the image becomes blurry. Not worth using it if the quality of the whole photo and the focus goes out.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

You can reduce the "blur" you mention by changing the quality setting to "best."

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Rafaello666

Participant

I photographed the city at night, through a window. The reflections disappeared, but so did the sharpness. I'll have to test this.

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Chapps-LA

Inspiring

Did you by any chance just use the 'preview' mode instead of the best mode? A lot of people have been making that error, and the preview mode is intentionally low res.

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rotbaer

Participant

I did the standard mode and will try the Best mode.

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