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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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No Quarter

Participant

I haven't tested it on many images but I have a heic picture sent from a client with reflections in large windows. The slider just blacks out the whole image when taken to -100. No reflections are removed at either end of the slider. Windows 10. Using Best Quality. Same effect on Camera RAW in Photoshop Beta as in Lightroom Classic.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Please consider posting the photo if you can. Without seeing the photo it's difficult to help. In general, when the tool removes nothing, its because there is not a pane of glass covering the view of your camera. And, when the tool removes nothing, that means the reflection is a black image—no reflection. Also keep in mind that you will get best results on RAW photos, rather than HEIC.

joseparre

Participant

cuando trato de quitar reflejos en camera raw, empieza el proceso y obtengo una imagen corrupta, con colores extraños. He probado a quitar el acelarlador gráfico y todo lo que me han contado, pero sigue todo igual.

Mando una captura dl problema:

muchas gracias

Srishti Bali

Community Manager

Hi @joseparre

Sorry to hear you’re running into this. To help figure out what’s causing it, could you please share:

System Info – In Photoshop, go to Help > System Info, then copy and paste the details here.
Whether the issue happens with all images or only certain files.

This will help us narrow down whether it’s a system compatibility problem or something specific to certain images.

Regards,

Srishti

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ECr_9

Participant

I tried to remove the reflections from this image with "best" preset, but it does not work. I don't know what the issue might be, I have a pretty good computer (Ryzen 9 7900x, RTX 4080, and 64gb of RAM), so I doubt that is the problem, I have the image in question attached

JohnDG Photography

Known Participant

I tried your picture on my pc (i9 14900KS, RTX4070 12GB VRam, 64GB ram). I'm intrested, because I had something simular, the glass of a train in Kyoto, where I couldn't remove anything at all.
On your picture, it reduces the top glare, but the houses on the bottom still remain.

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ECr_9

Participant

Your attempt looks way better than mine for some reason anyways, since when I do it barely anything changes. Im really confused with what the problem might be

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zaconline

Participating Frequently

Missed an obvious relection from a flash on a window in the background, but removed lighting on netting that covered the ceiling. Weird.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Please post the image. By your description, this does not sound like the kind of image that the tool is designed to fix.

Pippinboy

Participant

Selected 'Best' in the quality setting and did not make any difference at all. Had I have taken the shot with a polarizer I wouldn't even have even had an issue but the moment did not allow for on-the-fly changes of lenses or filters. I thought PS had something here, drats! Hopes were up then squashed like a bug on a windshield. Not really, I'm not surprised it doesn't work to remove reflections from windows.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This is a photo of a large tractor, as seen from the ground; within the tractor there is a person sitting behind some glass. The subjects are the tractor, the person, the glass, and the sky. There is not a pane of glass between the camera and those subjects. The tool has correctly detected that there is not a pane of glass, and so it has removed nothing. This is the intended result. So sorry to hear that you were surprised.

The quality setting only affects the sharpness. Please use the lowest setting to quickly learn which reflections this tool removes. Please also check out the Adobe blog to learn more about what this tool does.

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Y292244130ld8

Participant

This feature is great, but sometimes it decides to remove stuff that is not a reflection. Having masking could be a good solution for this without moving to PS

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Could you post the image?

JapanMike

Inspiring

I'm really not having any luck with this with a Monochrom raw file. This was taken from inside a cablecar/gondola/ropeway and I don't get any help with the reflections.

Something I'm doing wrong?
Thanks, Michael

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

I'm curious what camera you're using to capture a monochrome RAW photo. I know they exist, but they are also not common. Is this truly a RAW file, or is it actually a JPG/PNG/TIFF from a camera that employs a color sensor and then outputs only one channel?

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nirodhag85436529

Participant

It’s Nikon 7ii z and raw file

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Bill Quinby

Participant

I wanted to remove the reflections in the glasses of a subject I was shooting. Not sure I'm doing this correctly but it was a fail. Thanks for any help.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This tool will not remove reflections from small or distant panes of glass, and that includes eye glasses. Check out the Adobe blog to learn more about what this tool does.

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Dar7

Inspiring

You asked me to provide reference images to understand the problem. Any image processed with the new reflection removal feature generates an unknown error at exactly 26% of the reflection removal process. The image in question is a CR2 file; no editing was performed before removing the reflections using updated Photoshop and Camera Raw.

Updated Windows 10 Pro hardware, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA K1200 graphics card

David Franzen at Work

Adobe Employee

Please collect and share with us the following log files.

DxDiag report

The tool dxdiag produces a report that can be helpful to the engineering team while investigating problems.

Press the Windows key on your keyboard or click the Windows button in the taskbar.
Type 'dxdiag' (this does a search for the program).
Press the Enter key.
Wait for the DxDiag window to appear.
When it's enabled click the Save All Information button.
Save the DxDiag.txt file and submit it when reporting problems.

Application Logs

Second, please share with us a log file from Camera Raw covering when this happens.
1. Launch Photoshop and open the photo in Camera Raw
2. Use remove relfectioons on one file.
3. Close Camera Raw and quit Photoshop
4. Collect the Camera Raw log file from this location on your PC:

On Windows, the log location is: %APPDATA%\Adobe\CameraRaw\Logs. A shortcut to get to this folder on Windows is:
1. Press the Windows key.
2. Enter 'Run'.

Enter '%APPDATA%\Adobe\CameraRaw\Logs'.

Find the log files with names that include "Camera Raw"

Thanks for your help,
David