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Inspiring
June 7, 2025
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Post Processing in Camera Raw

  • June 7, 2025
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Hello,

 

I might be finally purchasing a professional camera. Before I do so, I just wanted to go over a few things with post processing. I would be recording all my pictures in the raw format and then converting them to dng with Adobe's DNG Converter. I have to do this because my version of camera raw will not support any camera on the market. I have already decided that I will be discarding my proprietary raw files after being converted to dng.

 

Now, what exactly should I do with the dng files? Obviously, I have to render them since I can't do anything with them as dng. Do most people render them in camera raw to jpeg or tiff? I understand tiff is recommended for printing and jpeg is recommended for sharing. How about the color space, should I render them as ProPhoto RGB, 16bit for the hightest quality? Would this apply for jpeg and tiff?

 

I know it's stongly recommended to keep the raw files, (in my case the dng files) even after being rendered just in case you want to go back and render it again differently. However, if I insist on getting rid of the dng files, I should render as tiff instead of jpeg. Then, I can always create a jpeg for sharing from the rendered tiff, correct? If I do this, would I need to convert the color space from ProPhoto to sRGB before saving as a jpeg? Also, do I change from 16bit to 8bit or just leave it at 16 bit for jpeg?

 

My main goal here is to keep all my pictures files the same. For example, I could have dng and jpeg file for each picture or I could have just a tiff file for each picture. PNG might be a possible format also. I will not have a mix. For example, some pictures having a dng and jpeg file and some pictures having a dng and a tiff file. With this being said, what is recommended?

 

Thank you!

3 replies

Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 11, 2025

You said “my version of camera raw will not support any camera on the market.” Is that because you’re staying with an older version of Camera Raw, for example are you avoiding the subscription?

 

Another big question is, do you like to edit, export a final version, then never edit that image again? Or, do you like to go back to older images and make them better using new tools and techniques?

 

My workflow is: Shoot and archive raw files only. If needed (as little as possible), convert raw files to TIFF only to use features not available in Camera Raw. Export JPEG copies for publishing and sharing.

 

I am not saying that’s the only right way, but here are my reasons:

 

I don’t need the in-camera JPEGs. I edit the raw files to my taste and export JPEG copies of those, so I wouldn’t be using the out-of-camera JPEGs for anything so I don’t want unneeded duplicates taking up storage space on camera cards and computer storage.

 

(In-camera JPEGs can be useful for event/news photographers who don’t have time to edit because their editor needs them to send photos for publishing ASAP. Or, some people like the look of in-camera JPEGs enough that they don’t feel like editing them much, and today’s cameras make very nice JPEGs.)

 

I use current versions of the software, so the raw files of all my cameras are supported. That’s why I asked if you need to stay on an older version.

 

I have gotten a lot of satisfaction out of re-editing old work. Partly that’s because I’m better at editing than I was in the past. I can open a raw file I edited from my first digital camera 20 years ago and create a much better image today. But it’s not just about technique…

 

…In recent years, Adobe has added raw editing features such as improved raw demosaicing for better details, vastly improved highlight/shadow processing, improved local contrast editing (Clarity, Texture, Dehaze…), and AI/GPU-assisted features such as AI masking, resolution enhancement, reflection removal, and the revolutionary Denoise. These not only make editing easier, they also make it possible to rescue images that used to be unusable, or make it possible for good images to look at lot better. These features are not available in older versions of Camera Raw, and some of them work only with raw files, or work best with raw files. Some of those features don’t work at all with TIFF or JPEG. So I have a strong incentive to keep original raw files so that I can get the most out of my images in the software, both today and in the future. 

 

Another reason is storage space savings. A raw file is a few megabytes, because it’s just a single channel of a sensor data readout. A TIFF version of the same image is many times larger than the raw/DNG original, because the raw file has been demosaiced into three RGB channels. If it was demosaiced to 16 bits/channel, then the file is twice as large as at 8 RGB bits/channel. If the TIFF file contains layers, then it’s even bigger. So 2000 photos from a trip could take hundreds of megabytes more storage space as TIFF files than as raw files. (JPEG files can be smaller than raw files, but the tradeoff in image quality is too high of a cost to pay.)

 

I convert raw to TIFF/PSD only when an image needs edits that can’t be done at the raw level with Camera Raw/Lightroom. But as Camera Raw has gotten more powerful, today I only need to send very few raw images to Photoshop, saving me a lot of storage space. 

 

So my image storage looks like this:

  • Almost all raw originals, except for images from cameras that don’t shoot raw such as HEIC from smartphones or my TIFF scans of film. 
  • A few raw files have a TIFF version as needed…but I still keep the raw original. 
  • The raw/TIFF originals that are worthy of sharing are exported as JPEG. (So not every raw image is converted to TIFF or JPEG, only as needed.) 

 

You don’t have to do it the way I do, but for me, keeping the raw source file and working from it as much as possible gives me the best combination of present/future editing flexibility, while also helping simplify file management and storage needs. But it requires keeping software current.

Inspiring
June 15, 2025

Yes, I will never have a subscription. I use CS6 and camera raw 9.1 and will always use this software unless a newer perpetual license becomes available. I may get a perpetual license from Affinity or someone else in the furture.

I think I would edit, export a final image and never go back. Although, I'm new at this, so may go back as my editing skills improve.

What do you mean by you convert raw files to tiff when needed to use its features not available in camera raw?

I can understand you wanting to edit the raw files yourself to taste and not wanting to use the out of camera jpegs. I may decide to do the same. I will have to wait and see. It may take me a long time to edit the raw files myself and may not enjoy doing it. Plus, the out of camera jpegs may turn out to be better than my processing. I will try it both ways and decide for myself.

Yes, I know a 25mb raw file can turn into a 105mb tiff file when using 16bit pro photo.

Most likely I will keep all my raw files (the keepers) for archiving and I will either edit myself and convert to jpeg with camera raw or just use the out of camera jepgs. Either way, I will have a processed jpeg for all the raw files I keep for viewing and sharing. This seems to be the most sensible thing to do. I understand if a photo needs to be printed, I can always go back to the raw and convert it to tiff. I would then delete the tiff once printed.

Please let me know if I'm missing something.

Erik Bloodaxe
Legend
June 15, 2025

You are in fact missing a great deal if you stick with CS6. Camera Raw editing has changed very significantly since those bygone days. 

It seems that you have already made up your mind as to how you wish to proceed with your photography. Others have chipped in with their preferred methods of working which you may or may not choose to emulate. Ultimately the decision is yours.

Legend
June 11, 2025

I never discard RAW files. I've recently been going through photos from a 2012 and retouching some nuggets I've dug up. Using current noise reduction and processing is going well.

Everything is processed (started with Bridge/ACR, use Aperture for years, now use Lightroom at home and Bridge/ACR at work) and then EVERYTHING goes through Photoshop and saved out from there.

Inspiring
June 15, 2025

What do you mean by everything goes through photoshop and saved out from there? Isn't it better to process raw files and convert them with camera raw instead? Meaning, raw files will be saved out from camera raw, not photoshop. 

Inspiring
June 16, 2025

Please let me know what you mean by this. Thanks

Erik Bloodaxe
Legend
June 7, 2025

When you convert your RAW images to DNG format you can embed the original in the DNG file so that it can be recovered if ever needed. I would absolutely NEVER delete the DNG files. It would be akin to throwing away your negatives in the old days. Some folk keep ONLY their DNG files (and sensibly keep multiple backups) and produce other format images from them as and when needed. That is quick and easy to do  using Photoshop's Image Processor as one convenient possibility.

 

Inspiring
June 9, 2025

Yes, I am aware of having the option to embed the original, proprietary raw file inside the dng raw file. However, I personally would never want to do this. I am wanting to understand the most common, recommended workflow for after convertering to DNG. Like I mentioned, the colorspaces and formats options.

Erik Bloodaxe
Legend
June 9, 2025

It all depends upon your intended use of your images. That is why keeping the originals or DNGs is essential since then you are able to produce whatever image format you need. I believe most people convert to sRGB for JPEG image sharing. Note that there is no such thing as a 16 bit jpeg, these are compressed files and are 8 bit by default.