Complete or Incomplete When Failed?

In order for sumtotal to keep a captivate course active until the learner either passes or fails a set number of times, you need to set the Sumtotal passing requirements separately, but in agreement with what you set in captivate.

In sumtotal...
-set the minimum score value under the Grading and Completion tab.
-also set the maximum tries per attempt to a value greater than 1 under the Web Based Training General tab.

That will keep the course active (and incomplete) until they either pass or fail too many times.

Then, of course you need to set captivate to allow retakes otherwise you will be able to go back into the course but not take the quiz again.
Give it a try. Hope that helps.
Russ

Hi,

If you are using Cp4, you can refer to http://blogs.adobe.com/captivate/2009/03/lms_reporting_enhancements_in.html for more information about LMS updates.

thanks
ravi

Has anyone had this code NOT work? I'm in the process of converting old captivate quizes configured for AICC to SCORM 1.2 for Peoplesoft's ELM.

I've tried allowing Captivate to convert up to v3, and creating the quiz from scratch. I publish and make Franck's edit - still no luck.

I used this code and it works, thanks very much

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The code I provided is for SCORM 1.2.
cmi.core.lesson_status = not attempted/completed/incomplete/passed/failed in SCORM 1.2 has been splitted into 2 variables in SCORM 2004:
cmi.success_status = pass/failed/unknown
cmi.completion_status = completed/incomplete/not attempted/unknown

Thanks to Franck Buland. I think this is what I also need.
LearnPak does the same thing. If the course is failed, Captivate also marks it complete and it disappears from the learner's development plan.

SCORM is a pain. To date I have always had to get in and tweak the code to get it to behave in accordance with the "real world."

The Captivate interface leads you to believe it reports pass/fail OR complete/incomplete. But the fact is it reports failed AND complete.

Blecch.

Almost as much fun as sequencing.

Franck,
Thanks for the code! I did not know that was accessible in the html. In my first test, this modification seems to be working! I will continue testing, but I think you've got it.
SCORM is a relatively new standard. I continue to get in the middle of "It's your LMS" and "It's your courseware". Everyone can have their own interpretation. If we all agree that returning "Complete / Fail" or "Pass /Incomplete" is a legitimate response than it will be.

Thanks again!

Landrover80, what you obtain is correct with the selected parameters (completed/incomplete), because if you take the quiz and fail, you have finished it, so it sends the completed status.

You could modify the <project>.htm file so that when Captivate sends 'Failed', you change it to "incomplete'.
First, publish the Captivate with pass/fail to SCORM 1.2
Then modify the <project>.htm at lines 95, 96, 97:

} else if ( strFSCmd == "LMSSetValue" || strFSCmd=="SetValue") {
strErr = eval('g_objAPI.' + strFSCmd + '(\"' + strFSArg1 + '\",\"' + strFSArg2 + '\");');
CaptivateObj.SetVariable(strFSArg3, strErr);

Test the value of lesson_status: so insert the following lines before the line strErr = eval('g_objAPI...
if (strFSArg1=="cmi.core.lesson_status") {
if (strFSArg2 == "failed") strFSArg2 ="incomplete";
}

to obtain:
} else if ( strFSCmd == "LMSSetValue" || strFSCmd=="SetValue") {
if (strFSArg1=="cmi.core.lesson_status") {
if (strFSArg2 == "failed") strFSArg2 ="incomplete";
}
strErr = eval('g_objAPI.' + strFSCmd + '(\"' + strFSArg1 + '\",\"' + strFSArg2 + '\");');
CaptivateObj.SetVariable(strFSArg3, strErr);

Franck

The scorm spec does not list 'pass or incomplete' so there's no dictate
for tool makers or LMS providers to support other than:
pass/fail
completed/incomplete
If other tools do, you've got gravy!
So if that's the issue, you've one of two choices, 'pass/fail' or
'completed/incomplete'.
Or, maybe that's not the issue?
Erik

ZacharyGuidry wrote:
> Since my last post I have tried a few ideas:
>
> Setting user must pass this quiz does not affect the complete/incomplete SCORM
> reporting. The SCORM results are sent when the quiz is complete.
>
> Setting the quiz to report pass/fail and then setting "If passing grade" to
> "Execute JavaScript" of
> api.LMSSetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status","completed");
> also does not work
>
> If anyone can figure a way to have Contribute report "completed" based on a
> passing quiz score, please post it here!
>

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