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December 22, 2017
Question

Draggers not working

  • December 22, 2017
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I want to start with recording her playing the guitar before I move on to recording the lip sync, but the draggers aren't working. Also, without the staple function, how do I attach the hands to the arms? QueenCAEp1Guitar.puppet - Google Drive

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    House of Sugars
    House of SugarsAuthor
    Inspiring
    January 12, 2018

    sZjx5Zaz4JHOAem73 Yes thank you that sounds exactly right. yes I'm trying to make a smooth head turn!! Thank you so much for the hard work!I0d2g7IQMGRZmehw1

      Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
      Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
      Legend
      January 12, 2018

      Hi Hi SugarTallerino,

      Did DanTull answer your question with his latest response? Please let us know.

      Thanks,

      Kevin

      Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
        House of Sugars
        House of SugarsAuthor
        Inspiring
        January 13, 2018

        I'm still working on it!! Thanks so much for the quick response, I'll report back this evening

        House of Sugars
        House of SugarsAuthor
        Inspiring
        January 11, 2018

        OK I've been looking through all the forums to figure out why I'm having distortion issues now!! I fixed the .ai file to incorporate your suggestions, and before i could even get started now I have another problem! I've tried adjusting the settings, everything I can think of? QueenCAEp1Guitar2.puppet - Google Drive

        DanTull
        Adobe Employee
        DanTull
        Adobe Employee
        January 11, 2018

        Sure, let me take a look. I noticed some weird warpy/floaty stuff when I looked last time, but figured I'd stick with the dragger stuff first.

        DT

        DanTull
        Adobe Employee
        DanTull
        Adobe Employee
        January 11, 2018

        The Eye Gaze behavior seems to be what is causing the warping based on turning toggling the eyeball on that behavior in the properties panel off and noting that most of the weird warping stops. It looks like a combination of some tagging and warp independence issues. Shouldn't take too long to track down. I also dis-armed the head turner so I can start with just the frontal face.

        DT

        Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
        Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
        Legend
        January 4, 2018

        Hi SugarTallerino,

        Sorry for the frustration. This doc should assist you with the tools around dragging objects: Edit and modify puppet structure

        You can attach hands to arms automatically. This video shows how. Let us know if it assists you or not.

        Thanks,
        Kevin

        Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
        House of Sugars
        House of SugarsAuthor
        Inspiring
        January 8, 2018

        When she's holding a guitar, the arm and hand need to move independently of eachother.
        Also, I watch all the videos, and try to solve problems myself before I come here, so when you post the videos as the answer to my question you're not helping me ;(. And no one even addressed why the draggers did nothing this time for some reason.

        DanTull
        Adobe Employee
        DanTull
        Adobe Employee
        January 9, 2018

        Hi, I haven't had a chance to fully confirm (by making all the required changes myself), but did take a look at your puppet and can hopefully help diagnose what is going wrong.

        I think the trouble is an issue with your arm structure. Take the right arm for example. It has 3 parts: Right arm (upper arm), Right Arm Low (forearm), and right hand. The hand and upper arm are both warp independent, but the lower arm (and the glove) are not. Also, the draggable handle closest to the hand is on Right Arm Low which (because it is not crowned warp independent) warps with the body which has a rather large mesh that is (for reasons I don't fully understand yet) using a somewhat rectangular mesh. I think that is probably due to having a number of loose (non contiguous) parts grouped under it.

        So, to start, I think what you'll need to do is get the right arm parts under one group and make that one group warp independent (with the crown) so that the whole arm warps together, but still separately from the body. The left arm needs slightly different treatment. The left arm part behind the guitar will need a dragger handle but to preserve the way the arm is behind the guitar but the hand is in front, the hand will need to be made into a warp independent group (so it can have its own dragger behavior and handle). That way, the left arm and the left hand will move together while still being behind and in front of the guitar.

        You may also run into some (performance) trouble with all the warp independent hair strands later, but I think there's a way to work through that as well.

        Hopefully this is a start at helping out! Let me know how it goes and I'll try to watch for further replies.

        DT

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