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Photoshop without Creative cloud?

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November 15, 2020
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how can i download photoshop without creative cloud?

Correct answer Rob_Cullen

Basically- you cannot!

Even if you can obtain a download file to install Ps, you will still need the CC Desktop App to Validate your subscription and Activate Photoshop.

Without the Desktop App - Ps will cease to work.

Photoshop is installed in your computer 'locally' it can operate (while Activated) without internet access.

You do not have to use the 'Cloud' for anything other than- Install and Activate Ps.

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Dmitrii35956449d9tl

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Creative Cloud is really slow and annoying. It works as user (instead of me) only on my computer. I don't need for this couple Creative Cloud + Photoshop)))

kglad

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@Dmitrii35956449d9tl

did you have a question or issue?

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Robert357888223g4g

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I wish we could. I really don't need a bunch of processes running in the background even when I'm not using any Adobe Apps.
I'm trying to run fluid simulations and render things in Blender and the last thing I need is some unnecessary bloatware running for no reason. I have a 7950x, 64GB RAM and a 4090 so it's not killing my system but benchmark testing shows 2-3% slower system speed and on a 50 hour sim, 2 extra hours to wait is wasted time. Could be the difference between starting a scene rendering before leaving the office and starting the render the next morning.

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Robert357888223g4g

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Can't see an option to edit. But to add to this, Adobe apps used to be the top option. Now we've pulled our business away from Premiere and After Effects in favor of Davinci Resolve becuase it just works. No crashes, no random requests to re-log in, no lag and a one time fee.
We've moved from Bridge to Fotoware for metadata and PS will be next on our list to replace.
Meanwhile Adobe are just making their software more and more anti-consumer. I have an annual subscription and for some reason, CC won't let me access the software I'm paying for when I'm travelling for doco work without internet to constantly log in.
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kglad

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@Robert357888223g4g

when about to travel, open all the adobe apps that you might want to use. then minimize them until they're needed.

jane-e

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Moved to Creative Cloud Services

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G. Young

Participating Frequently

Just an update on my issues with Photoshop Elements and Creative Cloud:

Every time I try to open my copy of 2021 Photoshop Elements, I get the message that "there's a problem with Creative Cloud" and that I should "reinstall Elements." If I ignore the message two or three times, I can eventually get Photo Editor to accept the image(s) I'm trying to open after which I can edit my photos and save the changes.

But I shouldn't have to fight the software to be able to use it. I have a 2019 MacBook Pro with a 2.3GHz, 8-core Intel I9 running 32G of RAM. If I install Adobe Creative Cloud, the entire machine slows to an absolute crawl and crashes randomly. I can view the processes and the percentages of clock cycles that different programs draw, and Creative Cloud IS absolutely the bad actor.

Either Adobe doesn't care about Mac users, or else they've accidentally engineered a resource hog that they don't know how to fix. Adobe Creative Cloud is an atrocity that makes Adobe software virtually unusable.

Either Adobe fixes their software to work without Creative Cloud or updates the CC software to run with fewer resources or I'll never spend another dollar on Adobe products. Apparently I'm not alone. Adobe, the ball's in YOUR court!

Glenn Young

D Fosse

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Apparently there is a bug somewhere here, but it should be noted that this is not the normal behavior. Most of us see no performance impact whatsoever from CC.

So the question is, what specifically is happening on this machine. Post it under "Bugs", and try to collect as much supporting data as possible - resource monitor, graphs, numbers etc. Anything that shows excessive resources being used.

For reference, I just checked here (Windows), and although there are quite a few CC processes running, they're not using any resources. No CPU, no GPU, no disk activity; at most a few MB of memory. They're basically just sitting there.

It should also be noted that any large and complex application will have a lot of background processes running. What's different here is that the CC app lifts all of it out of individual applications and into a centralized application manager. So if it was possible to run the application without CC, that would mean moving these processes back into the application. It would still be there and you wouldn't really gain anything.

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

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My system was bogging down for some time now. I periodically did some troubleshooting to try to find the culprit.

It seems to get better after I logged out of the Creative Cloud app, cleaned my ID Credentials with the Adobe CC Cleaner app, then logged back in. The system is working much better.

Time will tell if it stays that way, but the fix only took a few minutes.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

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jVh008

Participating Frequently

CC ( Creative Cloud ) is in general unvonted blemish on Mac CPU. Always subject of problems and slowing down work, eating expensive space on Samsung SSD drives. Why Adobe is not providing Exlusive photo-pack PH & LR with out [Cursing removed by moderator] .

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Lorenza22656924f1bk

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Then why cant the JPG files I created in cloud be opened by someone I'm sending files to. The file is corrupted and on their end, the file name is now prefixed by a DOT as in ".<filename>"

Derek Cross

Community Expert

Hi Lorenza

Which version of Photoshop and OS do you have?

How much RAM and spare hard-disk capacity do you have?

If the application is saving corrupt files reset Photoshop back to the factory defaults to see if that sorts the issue out. You can reset them under the General tab in Photoshop preferences (then close and reopen the application).

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G. Young

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I've absolutely HAD IT with Adobe. I've used Photoshop Elements for years, and purchased the upgrades again and again for I don't know how many dollars. Now I can't use Elements anymore without paying $30/month for some garbage called "Creative Cloud" that slows my NEW MacBook Pro to a crawl?

ENOUGH! I'm going to find a different photo editor, and Adobe can kiss where the sun don't shine.

If I'm bothering to post, you can be sure that there are hundreds of other former (and now similarly disgrunteled) customers who didn't bother. Apparently Adobe desires bankruptcy? Goodbye forever, Adobe.

Your former customer - Glenn

Derek Cross

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You have been misinformed – the Photography Plan include the full version of Photoshop and Lightroom and updates as they become available for around $10 a month. Photoshop Elements 2022 is a light version of Photoshop and is available for a one-off payment of around $90.

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G. Young

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When I attempt to start my Adobe Photoshop Elements 2021, I get a message that it can't start because elements of Creative Cloud are missing, and that I should reinstall CC. But wnen I go to the Adobe website to reinstall CC, I get a pricing structure of $30 per month. So AM I really "misinformed?"

I won't say it's impossible, but the error messages and web pricing are absolutely factual.

Derek Cross

Community Expert

Why do you pose the question - is there some issue or misunderstanding?

To get Photoshop (the latest version inc Lightroom) you take out a subscription to the Photography Plan - it costs around $10 a month. You download the application to your computer and use it in the normal way (i.e. apart from downloading Photoshop you don't need to be online to use it). Adobe checks periodically that you're up-to-date with your subscription.

littlereview

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Cloud has slowed my computer to a crawl -- it seems to be launching multiple variants of igfxext that are using all my memory. Will Photoshop Elements run without it once installed?

Derek Cross

Community Expert

Do you have Photoshop, if so which version and OS and how much RAM and spare disk capacity do you have?

Rob_Cullen

Correct answer

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Basically- you cannot!

Even if you can obtain a download file to install Ps, you will still need the CC Desktop App to Validate your subscription and Activate Photoshop.

Without the Desktop App - Ps will cease to work.

Photoshop is installed in your computer 'locally' it can operate (while Activated) without internet access.

You do not have to use the 'Cloud' for anything other than- Install and Activate Ps.

Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.0, Photoshop 27.0, ACR 18.0, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0 .

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