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lancem94779898
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June 15, 2018
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Desperately needed: basic advice on where to start!

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I'm a basic user with no formal education on software and I'm not necessarily stuck IN a project so much as I am stuck trying to figure out where to BEGIN with a project! There is literally so much to learn and do with the Creative Cloud (I subscribe) that I can see like 3 different ways to start what I need to start and I don't know which one is going to be best, so here's the situation: I need to build what amounts to an interactive decision flow...two examples are below that I found, going from basic to fancy.

javascript - HTML based troubleshooting decision tree - Stack Overflow

https://live.yworks.com/demos/complete/decisiontree/index.html

At work people have trouble doing their jobs because there are hundreds and hundreds of standardized procedures telling you how to do their jobs, but the process of FINDING the right procedure can be pretty rough...especially when you don't know what you don't know and you're digging for articles and you're like "Did I find them all? Do I keep looking?" The decision flow itself will guide a user to find a link to the procedure or procedures they need, depending on how they answer a series of clickable questions. Just like above.

Here's my one criteria: because of site security concerns and red tape, the decision tree has to be its own encapsulated, self-enclosed pdf. It can't be on the web. It can't be on our intranet. It has to be wrapped in that pdf and that pdf cannot in any way call outside of itself for more information. And Acrobat can DO that, right? And that's freakin cool!

But...where to START? I know the pdf can take some html content and it works. I know you can load a fair amount of javascript in it and it works. So I don't know where to start:

Do I build it in Dreamweaver as HTML and create the pdf in Acrobat via Create -> pdf from Web Page?

Do I build it in Animate as AS3, export as a SWF and load that into a pdf via Acrobat or InDesign?

Do I just figure out how to do it in Javascript and import the whole mess into Acrobat?

Do I go the SVG route in Illustrator and try to load THAT into Acrobat or InDesign?

I literally don't know what will work, what won't, if all work or none will. (insert deep, painful sigh here)

I don't care about how fancy it looks, it just needs to be functional FIRST and THEN I'd be happy with presentable. As far as my personal skillset, if it helps you answer, I've been able to build stuff in the past but only with code to model off of. Definitely a kinesthetic learner/doer.

Any advice you could give me would be INCREDIBLY appreciated...THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! : )

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Correct answer John T Smith

https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html was 12-31-2020

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Ned Murphy
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June 18, 2018

I am not at all familiar with the capabilities/limitations of working with pdf files.  If the Flash player is going away then you might also be able to create an executable (.exe) that doesn't rely on the player... I just don't know if that would work with a pdf.

Legend
June 15, 2018

Well, it's possible to create clever click-here forms using only standard Acrobat facilities, but this is intended for manual form fillers and creating a large thing automatically could be beyond painful. You would probably need to program a solution to create form fields and interactivity, if Acrobat forms do what you need. That's the big test: can you make a simple prototype that works at all?

lancem94779898
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June 16, 2018

I can take code and change it pretty well, modify things other people write...but I ain't got the kind of skills y'all do. I might have to suck it up and go the Flash route knowing Im on limited time. Youd think thered be a better way though like in html. Argh.

Legend
June 15, 2018

If you're thinking about the SWF route, consider that Adobe has announced that Adobe Flash Player will cease to exist after the end of 2020. It isn't clear whether there will be another way to use SWF, but since Adobe haven't said anything we have to assume Flash (SWF) in PDF also will cease to work, within the lifetime of your project.

lancem94779898
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June 15, 2018

Ouch...didn't think of that. Mucho Thankso!

If not the Animate/Flash route, what would you choose as a backup if you were in my shoes?

Ned Murphy
Legend
June 15, 2018

Were it up to me, I would start and depend solely on Animate - as long as it still allows for creating your own graphical elements, being that it allows for presenting information programmatically.  I actually would use Flash (have never used Animate), but they did away with it so for your benefit I say Animate.  I have created all kinds of things along the lines of what you describe using Flash.

lancem94779898
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June 15, 2018

Hi Ned!!! Thanks for replying

And you were able to do that programmatically and then load that into a pdf?

That's my 'twist' here. It literally HAS to be in a pdf.