Deprecated SB panels are back!

pziecina  wrote Not a reply to anyone in particular. We always appear to come back to the same disagreements, and loose the original topic along the way. Can we not for a change just say that code is good but not always quick, Wappler is better than Dw generated code, (and certainly better than Muse code) but may not be acceptable for large teams, (greater than 10) for which certain conditions and coding standards will and must apply, (but those standards may not be the standard of an individual or a small team) otherwise the chaos of different coding styles can destroy a project.

My question would be why should standards or acceptability be any different for a single developer or a team of 10? To me its all about having a passion for the job you are doing, assuming it is your main line of income of course, not the individual or team doing it - both should be equally as enthusiastic to learn good workflows, basic coding etc. Anyone else is free to use or do what they like, its of no concequence to the profession. Why should it always come down to cheap and cheerful.....or I cant really be bothered attitude?

As for Wappler coding being better than DW generated code how, why? I dont know what code DW generates, does it generate any code, I havent used it for some time now, certainly not to generate any code?\

pziecina  wrote Then we can get to discussing individual topics related to the web, like accessibility, html5 semantics vs all div (does it realy make a difference if aria is used correctly), css driven components vs js driven. Then of course the big question, that I think users of Dw's SB's will encounter in the comming months, which will probably come down to the question of, how long should the client expect a site to last, is it longer than 5 years before a redesign/build, or does it depend on cost, (I'm thinking about the support for php 5x ending, and the need to recode SB's) and if it is less than a certain length of time, who pays for the rebuild?

Well anyone who has used the SBs in DW over that last 3 years and may even still be using them is not a professional in my opinion. The writing was on the wall back then and if they are still using them and want to be taken seriously, well that leaves me speechless. Css driven, js driven, neither is going away so I have little opinions about using one or the other personally. I guess you would try and work css in where appropriate but its not something that is crital on my list............we all have different points of importance, so what is important to one is not necessarily important to someone else.........as we know

williamj31276244  wrote Yes of course that's what you'd say.

Where is the link to your web site?

Mine is in my profile, (if you are interested, I'm not) and as I am not interested in 'getting approval or work', I will not bother posting it here.

-Michele  wrote Perhaps they are worried about Wappler's growth (1000+ subscribers in just a few months) and are trying to recover the lost time in the last 10 years.

I doubt they are worried about anything......they havent been in years despite the growth of products like Pinegrow, Wix, Webflow etc which have been around considerable longer than Wappler. Why would they start to concern themselves at this stage, that would have happened years ago if Adobe were seriously interested in competing in the web-development market, they are not, based on the evidence to date. Too many cooks.

pziecina  wrote One never knows, they may have updated the SB's, after all in the user voice at the beginning of this year they said Quote - Thanks for writing in. We have fixed most of the issues with the extension and will soon be posting out a build on the Prerelease forum for you guys to try. Although, the request to add support for MYSQLi and PHP7 has been added in our backlog and will be prioritized for future releases. Regards, Niharika Gupta Adobe Dreamweaver end quote.

We'll it might have been a very different story had Adobe listened and provided what was asked for, years ago, instead they are now faced with everyone jumping from a sinking ship. Can anyone rescue it from almost certain oblivion if those at Adobe continue to ignore those in a much better position to guide it forwards. At best it will die slowly unless they wise up........very very soon. Time is ticking. You would think this bit of software is currently being managed by some guy in his back bedroom, who develops apps part-time, instead of a multi-billion pound company.

Thank you for your reply Jon. That could very well be the correct answer.

Not that it worried me, but in another forum (no, not that forum), someone else had complained about it not working. That's how I found out.