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Yalpi
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January 28, 2020
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Dreamweaver 2020 Roadmap

  • January 28, 2020
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Hello everyone,

 

We are excited to share our plans for Dreamweaver in 2020, and seek your feedback.
You can listen to the Dreamweaver 2020 roadmap plan here: https://my.adobeconnect.com/pb89bk8cye9a/.

 

Here are the stories we are planning for Dreamweaver in 2020:

  • Bootstrap v4.4.1 Support
  • HTML & CSS workflow Improvements
    • Updated HTML Code Hints, Error Reporting, and UI workflows (Properties Inspector, HUDs) to support latest HTML Living Standard
    • Updated CSS Code Hints, Error Reporting and, UI workflows(CSS Designer) to support latest W3C CSS Recommendations
    • Code Hints for CSS variables
  • Updated PHP Code Hints & Error Reporting for v7.4
  • Database and Server Behaviors workflows
    • Natively supported Database workflows (MySQLi, PDO)
    • Support PHP 7
  • Seamless Live View Editing Improvements
  • Code color customization through UI Preferences
    • Customize colors for specific tags
  • On type linting messages for HTML, CSS & JS
  • Update to latest versions of OpenSSL, OpenSSH, curl, Ruby, & NodeJS
  • Faster file opening for site roots hosted on network paths

 

You can subscribe to our pre-release program here to get hands on early Dreamweaver builds with these changes as we make progress.

 

Regards,
Dreamweaver Team

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pziecina
pziecina
Legend
January 28, 2020

Just to get back to the roadmap.

 

I'm wondering if there are also any plans to move the Dw UI into the 'visual' requirements arena that those with limited code knowledge appear to want?

 

The reason I ask, is that with the demise of Muse and BC, and the promise of 'a replacement' product for Muse users in that forum, the announcements of various features in the Dw roadmap, along with improving the UI of features may be an indication of such a 'wish' by Adobe.

 

Which then also leaves me with the question of 'testing', which has been discussed previously, as very few Dw users, (and testers) actually use Dw for anything more than 'personal/small' web sites, (mainly static using what was in html4, not html5 or css3). 

So to what standard will these new features be implemented and tested? Or will it be a 'take it or leave it' route to implementation and testing?

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osgood_
Legend
January 28, 2020

Most probably 'a take it or leave it' route but its better than nothing and brings Dreamweaver right back into the game for the smallish-dynamic-website-developer. You said yourself no-one actually uses an automated workflow for anything but a smallish website, a small app, etc. Everyone else is capable of coding that themselves and it's going to probably be quicker IF you have some basic snippets in the box, probably why some editors are a bit reluctant to introduce a snippets panel, the program will then be mostly redundant, they like the clickety, clickety, clickety,  click approach.

pziecina
pziecina
Legend
January 28, 2020

The problem of testing, (and a 'take it or leave it' approach) is that all 'new' features then become a Dw dev team and their advisors idea of what can/should be done and how. Which lets face it, on past experiance does not bode well for the implementation or for reducing the number of bugs present in them on the realese of the product.

 

Even thing as simple as srcset and css variables, have caused a lot of discussion in this forum, (for, against and how, what is required). Plus how will css grids/flexbox/multi-column layouts be implemented in a visual way? As reading a few older posts in this forum, a lot of mis-information, (and almost nothing when it comes to multi-column) has been posted. Plus lets not even talk about 'newer' features regarding css grids and flexbox, that are still in development, and as for css shapes/transitions/transforms/animations, lets hope that whomever tackles the implementation and development of those, (and testers) know what they are doing, (remember the original UI for transforms/transitions, was taken from Dw and developed into Edge Animate). 

 

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osgood_
Legend
January 28, 2020

Well at least it's official now!

Database and Server Behaviours workflows ARE coming back!

Probably a little too  late!

But I have to say its a very, very, very wise move. A lot of DW users (not me) just want a simple way of connecting/querying a database and getting the information back onto the page, with as little amount of hassle as possible.

I think DW is back in the ball-game when this is implemented as other editors, who have provided a database workflow since DW dropped the ball, are just far too complex for many to understand. These people don't care about js front end frameworks or back-end environments like node.js, docker etc for producing 99% of what is on the web...........hooray.....sense prevails!

 

Rock on - this is the best news for years in terms of what DW has to offer! For years its been going backwards, so a forward step can't come soon enough. I don't use DW but its kind of close to my heart as its where I cut my teeth and to see it sink as low as it has in the past few years has been particularly gutting.

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haleyt88803336
Known Participant
October 31, 2020

Well the Dreamweaver product team teased almost a year ago with the Roadmap butt as of yet they have not deleivered a thing. Thank alot Adobe. Please just discontinue Dreamweaver it[s basically useless at this point anyways. 

 

If you ever get serious again let us know I am curious how many Dreamweaver users have you lost since purchaed Dreamweaver ?

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osgood_
Legend
November 1, 2020

The DW team have been occupied by making the software more compatible with the latest operating systems. Progress has been  slow and disappointing. Many have given up on DW now as its become apparent, through lack of committment and broken promises, that its not a bit of kit within the Adobe stable that they care too much about. 

B i r n o u
B i r n o u
Legend
January 28, 2020

@Michele, although your analysis may have some truth to it, however I must admit that since interAKT was bought out, I have not followed their evolution closely.

 

Today, working on a database, it is imperative

  • that the JSON format be used for exchanges exclusively for the SB,
  • that AJAX queries can be used by the SB,
  • that data-* attributes can be used by the SB,
  • that JSONP format can be generated by the SB,
  • that automatic completion tools be optimized by the SB
  • that sensitive data management be encrypted on the fly directly by the SB


in short... for years SB have been rethought in terms of architecture, deployment, use... and as I said I haven't followed the news of InterAKT

 

    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    January 28, 2020

    As Ben has mentioned that Dw should include all in a revamped Dw as per your post Birnou, I feel I should reply in your post.

     

    Saying that only Wappler can do these now, is correct, (providing one wants them as point and click) but the old Dw Spry Db extension, (which I mentioned previously) could also do them all, (for free). I don't think that ajax usage should be by default though, (as in Wappler). Instead it, (or all you mention) should be options that users can decide to use or not, depending on the project/site.

     

    It's interesting though, that what Dw was capable of 13/14 years ago, is now up for discussion. As I can remember that back then very few had any interest in them, and unfortunatly that 'lethargy' also carried over to diss-interest in what html5 and css3  brought to the possibilities in web development as far as most Dw users were concerned.

    BenPleysier
    Community Expert
    BenPleysierCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    January 28, 2020

    Reading your reply, Paula, Donald Booth comes to mind. He was a master at providing technologies that were unique for that time. I also remember copping many criticisms for being a Spry advocate. That's all behind us now. This is what old people do, reminisce. As I do not want to be old, let's look to the future and with a bit of luck Dreamweaver will be part of that. 

     

     

    Wappler is the DMXzone-made Dreamweaver replacement and includes the best of their powerful extensions, as well as much more!
      Impressive_play01AC
      Impressive_play01AC
      Inspiring
      January 28, 2020

      For the Database and Server behaviours I think you don't need to reinvent the wheel, just update to the new standards the old InterAKT (ADDT) solutions that you already own and Dreamweaver will return back to dominate its category as in the Macromedia's days (maybe with some new improvements as PWA support).

      For any considerations on which road to take, read this post on the Wappler forum where you can check how InterAKT's solutions are still appreciated (and used):
      https://community.wappler.io/t/why-at-this-time-we-are-not-renewing-our-wappler-subscription/16970

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      Old we agree, need to change we agree, but you know what its works. Just have not found anything else that comes close to Kollections in terms of ease of use and functionality
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        osgood_
        Legend
        January 28, 2020

        @michele

        I read that post and smiled (a lot)........thats's not an isolated post, some get 'delisted' quickly.

         

        I think they have an issue where it was meant to be simple but has become far too complex. It's like the program is not quite finding its target market, which was always meant to be those with little web-development knowledge, its proving difficult.

        Impressive_play01AC
        Impressive_play01AC
        Inspiring
        January 28, 2020

        Ok but I haven't reported the Wappler post (that I consider a great tool but unfortunately for a small market niche... my opinion obviously) only to give my suggestion to which "path" the works of the new "server behaviours" should be focused "... in terms of ease of use and functionality".

        That's it

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