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DW, vs Coda, vs Pinegrow etc?

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September 22, 2018
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My old DW CS3 is broken, but I'm used to the DW interface for 10 years.

I don't want to pay the extorionist/ Price gauging Adobe ($240 year after year), so I peeked to today at Pinegrow and Coda. Coda looked a lot more like DW. It's preview was normal whereas Pinegrow's preview was wacky looking.

But I did not see an equivalent Design view, in Coda. Is Coda the most DW looking of the alternatives or is there a closer software to DW?

I do pay Adobe $10 every month for PS -- the photographer bundle. Is there a better deal I can get on DW, as I currently subscribe to that? Or with student rate? Or some idea how to get DW CC better priced than the overpriced standard price?

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Correct answer osgood_

Coda is not for you. Its as its name suggests for coders. That being said its well old, released in 2012 and only minor improvements have been included since. It was the number 1 web editor for a few years but the makers let the grass grow under its feet and turned their attention to producing games.

I still find it an excellent editor for coding but its live view doesnt support flexbox without a lot of prefixes. Its showing its age now. My advice would be to ignore it, it also is not a visual editor. 'Coda next' should be released at some poiint we have been informed and is currently in production but no news as to when its official release will be, if at all. The developers seem to get easily distracted and many of Codas users have since moved to other more up to date solutions as a result.

Look at a web editor called Wappler, that is a visual editor along the same lines ss Pinegrow but with more front and backend functionality. If you dont require database options you can pick up the education basic version for 49 dollars a year.

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A little old but similar to the pre CC versions of Dw is -

http://westciv.com/style_master/index.html

Nancy OShea

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Larry4545,

Try BlueGriffon. You can try the free version at no risk. If you ilke what you see and you want the extras, you can buy a basic license for 75 Euros.

BlueGriffon

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Thanks Nancy will peek at it. Even CC DW 2018 is not what I remember and am used to.. black background, hard to deal with, boy love CS3 so easy and more intuitive.

What think of WPs idea of trying to stay with it? With old OS.. ? And what think of Blu G vs Wappler

Blu looks cool, you can bring up full code and design side by side, but where is property bar I used to for fonts/ and links?

Also, the full site is not there, you have to navigate to just one page?

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

I think you'll be hard pressed to find the Site Management features of DW in any other code editor. That's why I keep using DW.

HTML fonts are deprecated for many, many years. These days we use CSS to style content. If you're using legacy code from 10 years ago, you may have other problems that cannot be overcome until you fix errors and update your code to modern web standards.

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larry4545 wrote
My old DW CS3 is broken

Just curious -- Is that due to OS upgrade compatibility, licensing errors, or due to it no longer being compliment with web standards ?

larry4545 wrote
Pinegrow's preview was wacky looking.

Again just curious -- concerning what aspects ? Rendering PHP? Other ?

osgood_ wrote
Look at a web editor called Wappler, that is a visual editor along the same lines as Pinegrow but with more front and backend functionality.

That's perhaps with mixed reviews even by Wappler users, concerning the frontend side of things. I've noticed their users themselves bring up Pinegrow a lot comparatively.

https://community.wappler.io/t/pinegrow-comes-with-css-grid/1624
https://community.wappler.io/t/ok-ill-start-since-im-not-shy/1386/31
https://community.wappler.io/t/a-wee-bit-disappointed-with-wappler/2408
https://community.wappler.io/t/wappler-vs-pinegrow/1030
https://community.wappler.io/t/better-css-design-panel/2133 (now under development, under experimental features)

So I guess many aspects going either way (< >) can be subjective, depending on users, criteria, features expectations, etc. Which is generally the case with any application and user experience.

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don't know WJ, just broke, but 10 years old now.. but with High Sierra..? did 2 post, it wont to change links sitewide anymore. And in a year wont work with mac at all.

Just peeked at Wappler, nicer than Coda, in that yes design view.

But no split view? And where is was in equivalent of property bar to check links and fonts? Anyway to change to code view to white background? What is this all new apps do black background, don't get that.

new DW CC is actually not so easy an interface as it once one.

Osgood: Geez per year? I'm trying to get away from yearly extortion bills. Darn.

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larry4545 wrote
don't know WJ, just broke, but 10 years old now.. but with High Sierra..? did 2 post, it wont to change links sitewide anymore.

Ah yes, I see your recent thread:

DW says no links, can't find when hundreds

Did this occurrence or breakage follow an OS update to High Sierra ?

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Coda is not for you. Its as its name suggests for coders. That being said its well old, released in 2012 and only minor improvements have been included since. It was the number 1 web editor for a few years but the makers let the grass grow under its feet and turned their attention to producing games.

I still find it an excellent editor for coding but its live view doesnt support flexbox without a lot of prefixes. Its showing its age now. My advice would be to ignore it, it also is not a visual editor. 'Coda next' should be released at some poiint we have been informed and is currently in production but no news as to when its official release will be, if at all. The developers seem to get easily distracted and many of Codas users have since moved to other more up to date solutions as a result.

Look at a web editor called Wappler, that is a visual editor along the same lines ss Pinegrow but with more front and backend functionality. If you dont require database options you can pick up the education basic version for 49 dollars a year.