Happy 25th Birthday - PHP (Belated)

Php is not a framework, its a scripting language much like javascript is not a framework its a scripting language. Frameworks or libraries  are those which provide the easy route in for developers who dont learn, or attempt to learn, the origins of a coding language properly, ie jQuery in the case of javascript, Laravel in the case of php, etc Developers these days rather than learn the core concepts of a language use frameworks/libraries and never really understand the principles and workflows behind what they are doing.

As for node.js well that's just a behemoth, in my opinion, as that uses a framework + some. The most popluar of which is express.js which in turn needs a lot of dependencies to do anything. Node.js is only an advantage if you are building apps and real time apps at that. There is zero advantage of using node.js to build websites such as you or I would build, unless you have sights on moving ino more complex app building. But new developers see node.js as being popular, so they jump on it and build everything in node.js rather than assess which solution would be better suited to what they are doing.  Personally I dont believe in making my life as a web developer much more difficult and complex than it needs be.

Its quite entertaining to see your mob, over at the other place jump on board, most without really knowing what node.js is. Its just been thrust upon them and they think this is the future, until they realize actually this is just making my life more complex, rather than making it easier and more managable. Its taken node.js 11 years, I think, to get even 1% of the market, php has currently about 80% of the marlet in 25 years. Node will have to go some to obtain that kind of popularity in the next 14 years, given deno.js, the new kid on the block, will now eat into its share of the market. I expect php to slowly decline over the years but so will node as other languages erode their market share.