Is Wappler the Dreamweaver Killer?

Their campaign is doing really well - pretty much reached the goal within two days. And still a month to go!

Seems to be some demand. Good for them. It's not a product for me (I don't need a visual tool, and I am not willing to rent software if I can help it), but any product that creates clean code and has a good visual GUI deserves to exist.

Yes, I am confident that Wappler will mean bad things for Dreamweaver. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe Adobe will get it and come to their senses with DW and start taking it seriously.

But DW has been in a coma for the good part of ten years. Can't see it waking up any time soon. Having been involved with Wappler private beta since day one I can say I love where it is going. It's not there yet but the destination is awesome. I invested in my future and became a backer as well.

-Michele  wrote Is it time for Adobe to wake up?

Yes. But sadly it's been going on for at least a decade and counting, across many of their flagship applications.

-Michele  wrote should Adobe buy Wappler and include it as a new app

Given all the areas Adobe seems to be falling behind regarding innovation and features from various competitors and alternatives, I suspect Wappler is just one app amongst a long list that poses this same question for Adobe.

Competition is good for users, as it not only offers choice but innovation in the market place.

The worst thing for any app or company would be to get consumed by the Adobes bureaucracy and then have their focus turned to marketing over innovation. These smaller developers can run circles around Adobe regarding innovation, concerning time to market and the agility to adapt quickly and respond to customer needs.

Pinegrow and Wappler are both viable options (each in various regards) for those people looking for possible "Dreamweaver Alternatives". Its good more choices are emerging in this space, as people such as Affinity and others are already providing alternatives to other Adobe apps.

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;-) Surprisingly not many people are interested in the Coffee Mugs, Stickers or T-Shirts. Go figure. But it does seem there is interest in the Basic and Pro versions of Wappler thus far. Presently there are only 599,975 more DMXzone users to try and convert over.

I noticed someone mentioned this on the Wappler blog:

Doh ! Thats not good.

So I hope they don't live up the their name in that regard: "pretend to be competent and capable, but in reality completely incompetent"

Time will tell. I wish them the best of luck and success with their app.

What you think about Wappler?

A shakeup for the industry. These guys know what they are doing.

Is it time for Adobe to wake up?

Yes.

Do you think Adobe should include in the next versions of Dreamweaver new dynamic behaviours for web and/or mobile applications?

A bit late for that with two extension makers already providing excellent extension. Adobe should have had the sense to modify the initial Server behaviours. I had alluded to that back in the CS6 era, I was promised they would include the updated SB panels, yet this has been their greatest letdown.

should Adobe buy Wappler and include it as a new app in the CC subscription?

What? And kill it off like so many things that they do not grasp?

-Michele  wrote From Wappler's crowdfund page: Are you the Dreamweaver killer? Absolutely. Adobe Dreamweaver is turning more and more into a tool for hardcore coders and loosing its well-known visual abilities. It's also a truth that Dreamweaver's development has being way behind the latest web or mobile app developments. Wappler is going further - where Dreamweaver hasn't gone before! What you think about Wappler (seeing it in action on videos advertising)? Is it time for Adobe to wake up? Do you think Adobe should include in the next versions of Dreamweaver new dynamic behaviours for web and/or mobile applications? Last but not least... should Adobe buy Wappler and include it as a new app in the CC subscription?

I think its safe to say that anyone who has been around these forums for more than a couple of weeks has issues with the way Dreamweaver has been going over that last few years. Unfortuantely it dropped the ball at around the same time as it more or less decided NOT to replace the server behaviour extensions.....personally I think that was a disastrous decision by whoever made it as DW became 'just another web-editor' amongst a lot of other much better ones, ones which were progress.

In its hey day DW was the go-to app for inexperienced developers wanting to connect their website to a database, it was unique, nothing else offered that option and is why many amatuers and experienced front-end devs piled into DW as if offered the basic tools to advance the options they were in turn able to offer potential and existing clients, without the added cost of employing an experience back-up programmer or additional paid-for extensions. OK as with ALL extensions, no matter who produces them, they have their limitation and are not a replcement for real coding, they provide a simple way to do basic things which is what a lot of developers/amatuers want and need.

Wappler is a strange one, potentailly it looks good if you like to spend the majority of your day trolling through a lot of menus, pointing and clicking but unless it gets to market soon so it can be tested in the 'real world' it remains an 'unknown' app.

Last time I looked 23 crowdfunders had been acquired which isnt a lot if you consider DMXzone has apparently 600000 subscribers. The 15000 Euro expectation for crowdfunding is very low, that would'nt even pay for a good software program devs wages for 3 months. I think they have set the bar too low possibly because they themselves are unsure of its potential to pay for itself through a subscription only based business model.

Well even Joseph Lowery - "The Dreamweaver father" - agrees with us. That is what Michele is referring to:

Wappler Intro from the The Dreamweaver Guru Joseph Lowery - YouTube

and the IndieGoGo crowdfunding campaign speaks for itself:

Wappler - World's Top Visual Web App Creator! | Indiegogo