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FieryPantone
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September 24, 2020
Question

strange rendering of new font in .pdf output

  • September 24, 2020
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New corporate font Inter – always looks a bit fuzzy when output to .pdf
Had to tweak a .pdf page with Illustrator this morning, because of problems with starting FrameMaker. I selected a character to delete, and noticed I had to do this twice. Closer examination shows the glyph has been rendered as two Illustrator elements: an outlined glyph and a filled glyph. (the stroke/fill indicators switch)
What's going on here?

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    FieryPantoneAuthor
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    September 29, 2020

    [ps] where's the Edit option disappeared to? I forgot to put should in italics

     

    LinSims
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    LinSimsCommunity Expert
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    September 29, 2020

    It seems to be a case of a few bad actors spoiling things for everyone. Some users abused the ability to edit their own posts, so now only Adobe employees, ACPs, and MVPs get to edit their posts.

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    FieryPantoneAuthor
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    September 29, 2020

    Thanks for the tip, Stefan … I always advise "my" OEMs to avoid the word should, which suggests fingers crossed behind the back and general hoping for the best. When working with either or both of a) corporate installations; b) Windows, however, the word is entirely justified :-}

     

    I fear I'm not going to get anywhereif I ask CorpCom for a different set of font files.

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    FieryPantoneAuthor
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    September 28, 2020

    Thanks for the tip, Bob … before I follow it up, though, how can I check whether or not it's a TrueType already? here's what I see in the Fonts folder, information I don't know how to interpret farther.

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    Stefan GentzCommunity Manager
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    September 28, 2020

    As you can see in the screenshot, the icon in front of the font name Inter is a "stacked" icon. Double-click it, to go "into" the font. There you will find all the styles like Regular, Bold, etc. Select one, and hit Alt+Return or right-click and choose "Properties" from the context menu. There you will find the information, and for Inter it should be "TrueType":

     

     

    Bob_Niland
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    Bob_NilandCommunity Expert
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    September 28, 2020

    Mr.Bill used to show a nice, obvious, different icon for TT, T1 & OTF fonts in C:\Windows\Fonts, but it looks like that's been trashed, perhaps because "you don't need to know", except that, of course, you too often still do.

     

    And then there's whether it's a Variable font as well.


    Reporting the codepoint range would be a big help too, for if it's \x00-FF, and not a Latin font, then it's legacy overlay/codepage font. The Details view in the file manager does have a "Designed for" column, but it's not terribly revealing.

      Bob_Niland
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      Bob_NilandCommunity Expert
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      September 24, 2020

      If it's a "variable" font, and marcom provided it also as TrueType, switch to that, according to Barb.

      Variable Font Support for FrameMaker 2019

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      FieryPantoneAuthor
      Legend
      September 24, 2020

      @ Winfried – yes, the font is where it should be, and I shut down my PC every night :-} Acrobat identifies that the text is (or should be) in Inter Medium.

       

      @ Stefan – yes, a corporate choice was made for this new-fangled variable font: as far as I remember, the idea was to deliver smaller web pages by not having to have include font variants? I was puzzled by that at the time, but wasted no time fretting about it because I don't usually deliver html. I'll be interested to hear more about any possible conflict / lack of support. By the way, the file I happened to be looking this morning was distilled from a FrameMaker document; but occasionally I also have to deal with .pdf created from Word, also using Inter. Are these likely to have the same problem?

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      Stefan GentzCommunity Manager
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      September 24, 2020

      How are you creating the PDF? With Postscript and Distiller or with the new native PDF Engine?

       

      Is it the Google Font "Inter"? https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Inter

      Inter is a variable font. Not sure, if FrameMaker and FrameMaker's PDF engine officially supports that (will check with Dev team).

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      Winfried RengCommunity Expert
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      September 24, 2020

      Hi FieryPantone,

       

      The font looks nice 😉

      How did you install the font? Is the font installed here?

      c:\Windows\Fonts\

      How did you create the font? What's your default printer?

      Did you check all other options to generate a PDF:

      Print to PostScript, distill

      Save as PDF without the option Use Acrobat Distiller for PDF generation in the Publish pod, then Edit sts file, Output tab

      Save as PDF with the option Use Acrobat Distiller for PDF generation activated

       

      Did you check in Acrobat whether the font is actually applied?

      Did you restart Windows? (OK. Very basic, but still often helps and often forgotten.)

      Best regards

       

      Winfried

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