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September 4, 2024
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Black Box Around Endnotes and First Word for Each Endnote is Blue

  • September 4, 2024
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I've made sure that text wrapping is off, I've looked at the ojbect styles and made sure that's alright, I've looked at character and paragraph styles, and I am absolutely flabbergasted at why I continue to see that thick, black box around my endnotes and why the start of each endnote is blue (including, per the screenshot, a continuation of an endnote from one page to the next). 

 

I've looked around these forums to no avail (that's why I knew to try some of the things mentioned above). I didn't have this problem with my endnotes until recently. This is part of a series of booklets, so I usually copy/paste the old indesign file into the new booklet's folder and then start formatting on the copied file, so the settings haven't changed, so this is a new thing in my files. I'm on Indesign 19.5, in the US (if that matters), and I don't know a whole ton about this being self-taught and Google Search taught.

 

I'll take any help I can get. I'm dying here. Please and thank you.

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Inspiring
November 7, 2024

The black frame is some default CSS styling from InDesign to EPUB which is annoying. If you can edit the CSS, look for border instructions and delete them entirely. The blue numbers are default hyperlinking styling. The footnote reference numbers have two-way hyperlinks from the text to the footnote and back again. 

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
September 5, 2024

A question I forgot to ask: was the content for this book created in/imported from Word? I am pretty sure that's the source of the black box in most cases, and the reason it's not seen in all InDesign EPUBs with end notes.

Participating Frequently
September 6, 2024

I copy/pasted from a .doc or a .docx. No importing though. 

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
September 4, 2024

What you are seeing are artifacts/elements introduced by the EPUB reader. They have (next to) nothing to do with anything you or InDesign is doing.

 

Some readers apply that black box around the Endnote frame, and IIRC it's not even a defined export/style element, but wholly created by the reader's rendering code. I can't remember offhand if a CSS statement can be used to suppress it. In any case, it will vary with the reader used — what reader are you using to view/proof your export?

 

Ditto for the blue numbers. They're links. Again, mostly a reader-applied effect, and can be difficult/impossible to override, at least on all readers.

Robert at ID-Tasker
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September 4, 2024

@SammyReyRey 

 

So screenshot wasn't from InDesign? 

 

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
September 4, 2024

Looks like a reader to me, probably ADE. Also FXL export, given the page numbers. But need some confirmation before I can make any further recommendations.

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
September 4, 2024

Black stroke - check applied Object Style. 

 

Blue numbers - there must be a CharStyle applied. If it's not set in the Endnote preferences then check applied ParaStyle for Nested Styles. 

 

Participating Frequently
September 4, 2024

Already checked all of that. Nothing. 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
September 4, 2024
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Already checked all of that. Nothing. 


By @SammyReyRey

 

As @James Gifford—NitroPress suggested - it's from the reader.