Skip to main content
Known Participant
November 23, 2024
Answered

Bleeding into gutter and other facing page

  • November 23, 2024
  • 3 replies
  • 2498 views

Hello,

I'd appreciate your expertise here, please.

I have a 250-page book with two-page spreads.

Some of the pages have an image, say, on the left side that bleeds Top, Left, Bottom and extends to the gutter. Problem: it bleeds into the gutter and onto the next page.

My printer said my bleeds have to be the same on all sides, to trim the pages correctly, so I set my bleeds at 0.125" Top, Bottom, Inside, Outside.

Problem: when I adjust images away from the gutter by a point or two, to potentially correct the bleeding over, they still bleed across. I should not have to do this, but it's a limitation of InDesign..

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you,

Correct answer Willi Adelberger
  1. Go to the Pages Panel
  2. Select the affected pages
  3. In the panel menu deselect allow pages to shuffle
  4. Click on one of the affected pages, select it
  5. Drag the page to the right until a vrtical bar appears
  6. Release the mouse

Now the pages of this 2 page spread became 2 single page spread, where the bleed does not affect the oposite page,

3 replies

Brad @ Roaring Mouse
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 25, 2024

Where are you viewing this effect in your first screenshot?

And how is the book being bound? (i.e. saddle-stitch or something else)

wgnumbersAuthor
Known Participant
November 26, 2024

Hello

I am viewing this in Adobe Acrobat, latest version.

I tried all the above suggestions, and I greatly appreciate them! 

Unfortunately, all this happened when I upgraded to InDesign 2024-25. Many little things shifted and got tweaked during the conversion of my book files. 

Adobe denies everything, of course, stating it's my issue. Yes, I know it's my issue, dear Adobe, caused by your buggy program and your inability to produce a workabout app. 

Soooo, the bottom line is this: I have a 250-page book that previously converted to pdf files (cover and interior) with older versions of InDesign, and now is a shitshow.

Yes, I also re-loaded older versions I'd used last year, but those now do NOT open the new InDesign files. 

The Catch-22: if I save interior file as a SPREAD, the inner bleeds do not jump across the gutter. For those of you who know commerical printing, you know that pdf files must be saved as PAGES, not spreads.

So, I'm happy to take new suggestions, folks. I've spent two weeks going through many an iteration that ended up with images that jumped across gutters. 

Thanks for your ongoing support.

Cheers,

D

 

Dave Creamer of IDEAS
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 26, 2024

I don't think you understand the process:

If there is nothing in the gutter, you don't have to touch the spreads.

If an image jumps the gutter, you don't have to touch the spreads.

If an image is only on one page and stops at the gutter spine, then split the spread apart as shown in my gif.

 

None of these options affect the export as pages. 

 

 

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)
jmendesign
Inspiring
November 23, 2024

Hi. 
if I understood correctly you don't need bleed in the spine. Just make the bleed in the master pages across the borders (you need to make a master as a spread). 

wgnumbersAuthor
Known Participant
November 23, 2024

Please explain in detail. I cannot find any intel on this topic. Thank you.

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Willi AdelbergerCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
November 23, 2024
  1. Go to the Pages Panel
  2. Select the affected pages
  3. In the panel menu deselect allow pages to shuffle
  4. Click on one of the affected pages, select it
  5. Drag the page to the right until a vrtical bar appears
  6. Release the mouse

Now the pages of this 2 page spread became 2 single page spread, where the bleed does not affect the oposite page,

wgnumbersAuthor
Known Participant
November 23, 2024

Sorry, Sir, but this didn't work. Any other ideas, please?