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June 1, 2019
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Bounding Box and PDF import

  • June 1, 2019
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Using CS4, I’m importing a PDF of an exhibition graphic I created at 25% finished size, into another ID document at full size to test it comes out correctly when enlarged by 400%. When I enlarge the placed PDF to 400%, although the width is true, the height comes out short of the bottom.

These are the default settings under Show import options: Default option selected: Crop to Bounding Box. When I changed Crop to: Art, the depth correctly extended to the bottom of the page. 1/4 of the PDF is a text frame inset from the top and the rest is an image extending to the bottom of the page. I assumed that with Bounding Box the PDF would fill the full size page exactly when enlarged.

Is it because the text box starts further down the page or is there some other explanation? All answers gratefully received.

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The bounding box is rarely the exact design size. It should be the smallest box that encloses all the elements (more or less). So margins may be lost, including any space left at the bottom. If you want the design size the trim box is often a good choice, though on docs without bleed, crop and art may do.

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Legend
June 2, 2019

I’ve always found Acrobat’s “document properties” misleading. It shows the visible page size, which is the crop box; often the same as the bleed box or trim box but not necessarily either. It may be rotated. Further, it can be different in each page, but there is no note to say it’s just the current page. So, interesting for the casual user but I would indeed go with preflight, remembering each page may be different.

June 2, 2019

Sounds like I should start using Preflight. Thanks.

rob day
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June 1, 2019
I’m importing a PDF of an exhibition graphic I created at 25% finished size,

Have you checked the PDF's dimensions in Acrobat Reader or Pro to confirm that the dimensions are what you expect them to be?

June 1, 2019

Yes, thanks, checked the PDF dimensions in Acrobat Pro Properties and they're correct.

rob day
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June 1, 2019

dimensions in Acrobat Pro Properties and they're correct.

Doc properties gives you the document dimensions, which includes any bleed amount. Preflight’s Page Information gives you the actual page box dimensions that correspond to the Place Crop To Options, so you might also check via Preflight Analysis:

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Legend
June 1, 2019

The bounding box is rarely the exact design size. It should be the smallest box that encloses all the elements (more or less). So margins may be lost, including any space left at the bottom. If you want the design size the trim box is often a good choice, though on docs without bleed, crop and art may do.

June 1, 2019

Appreciate your prompt and helpful answer. I recall that a similar thing happens when importing Illustrator files into ID – that took me some time to figure out.

rob day
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June 1, 2019

It might be hard to find someone using CS4 to check PDF place options, but in the current version Trim works. Here I'm placing a PDF with a 4" x 4" trim and .125" bleed, and the Transform panel tells me it has placed as 4" x 4"