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Can anyone identify this frame?

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These are a few pages that I placed from a Word.doc. I can't figure out what is going on with Page 1. It seems to have overset text but I can't find it. I can see it in Story editor but can't release it. Also, I can not resize it. Does anyone know what it is?

Thanks for any help

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Correct answer Robert at ID-Tasker
I know how to place Word I have been doing it for 30 years but the problem is with the text box on pag1. It has overset text on the foreign side which I can get. The overset text on the English language side I can not get although it shows a tiny red dot.

@Ian Blogs

 

OK. Now we know what is your problem. 

 

That's an overset text in the table. Unfortunately, InDesign is unable to split cells between TextFrames - never was. 

 

The only way to do something with it is to put cursor somewhere in the text - in this Cell - hit Ctrl+Shift+End - or use Story Editor to select this overset text - cut this part of the text, create new row in the Table and paste to a new Cell. 

 

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December 8, 2024
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These are a few pages that I placed from a Word.doc. I can't figure out what is going on with Page 1. It seems to have overset text but I can't find it. I can see it in Story editor but can't release it. Also, I can not resize it. Does anyone know what it is?

Thanks for any help


By @Ian Blogs

 

Don't know why it's not working for you

 

I can clearly see overset text 

 

 

 

I can easily release it

 

 

 

I'm not sure what the mystery is 

Page 6 is linked back to Page 1 creating an odd loop - usually happens if someone unfamiliar with pages wants to move a page and the drag the page icon to rearrange pages - which causes irrational page threading - rather cutting pasting text to move text.

 

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So I cut all the text out by CMD A to select all text

 

 

Then deleted all pages except page 1

 

Then pasted the text back in and then added the pages and reflowed the text

 

And there's a table in the middle splitting the text for some reason - must be in the word doc like that. 

 

But I was able to cut the text from the overset and made some new pages to thread them

 

 

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Not really sure what the confusion is or how it can't be solved. 

It seems straightforward to me unless I'm missing something.

 

I've attached the file where I cut the overset text and created a new text thread for the overset text. 

 

Seems to be fine to me - just need to sort out the order of the text whatever that may be. 

 

And the pages not threaded correctly, happened to me 25 years ago, I didn't understand that to rearrange pages yo can't simply rearrange the page icons (this was in Quark) and to rearrange the pages you need to cut and paste the text to reflow the text. 

 

So when things go bad - and things aren't making sense with page order or text order content - start over.

Cut all the text. 

Delete all pages - except page 1 or even Page 2 if you have a specific type header (page 2 then becomes page 1)

 

then flow your text back through the document .

 

Hope that makes sense.

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
December 8, 2024

I'm baffled. There are quite evidently two story flows, English and Dutch, but I can't puzzle out the structure underneath and that sort of "extra" frame resists all attempts to select or identify. Even a save to IDML and open — which usually fixes doc structure problems — did nothing.

 

If I had to do something here, I'd select each story, cut it and paste it to a new text flow. But there might — must? — be some way to untangle this mess. 🙂

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
December 8, 2024

@James Gifford—NitroPress 

 

Not sure what do you mean?

 

On the 1st page there is last TF of the Story - with overset text - and there is just a table inside:

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
December 8, 2024

This is the order of your TextFrames:

Start of the thread is on the 2nd page.

 

Just click the red [+] - outport - on the 1st page:

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
December 8, 2024

And after removing TFs from the pages 2-6 - leaving TF on the 1st page - and reflowing: