I'm a semi-seasoned INDD user, but this has me stumped.I have lines on a page that I can't select.I have tried all these solutions:Override all master page items has no effect - still can't select the linesThe lines are present in the assigned master page and I can select them thereI checked layers - none are locked but one of the layers turns off the lines I can't selectNone of the individual objects in the layers palette will turn the lines offI can only turn off the layer visibility of the lines in question of the "parent" layerNo objects on the page are lockedIf I create a new page and assign the same master, I can override master items on that new page and delete lines thereAny ideas on other things can affect the ability to select items on a page?

joet082964

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Can't select certain items

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January 4, 2017
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I'm a semi-seasoned INDD user, but this has me stumped.

I have lines on a page that I can't select.

I have tried all these solutions:

Override all master page items has no effect - still can't select the lines
The lines are present in the assigned master page and I can select them there
I checked layers - none are locked but one of the layers turns off the lines I can't select
- None of the individual objects in the layers palette will turn the lines off
- I can only turn off the layer visibility of the lines in question of the "parent" layer
No objects on the page are locked
If I create a new page and assign the same master, I can override master items on that new page and delete lines there

Any ideas on other things can affect the ability to select items on a page?

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clintonAEMC

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Check the SUB-layers.

1. Expand the sublayer

2. Unlock any locked sublayers

rob day

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Can you share the file via Dropbox or your cloud account?

joet082964Author

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Not comfortable sharing public, but I messaged you a link rob day

rob day

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There does seem to be a corruption in the file. On page 2 if I delete the rules (that appear to be overriden), I can then override the mp items underneath via command-shift click. But then when I delete the new overridden items there's always another MP copy underneath. This happens even when I make a new spread from the C master at the end of the document.

The problem does seem to have a relationship to CC2017, because if I save the file out as an IDML and open it into CC2014 there's no evidence of the problem.

In CC2017 if I delete the 4 rules on the left master page and then copy the rules on the right page over to the left, the problem goes away.

joet082964Author

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Steve Werner

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The Jive software which Adobe uses has this crazy default where it marks a thread "Assumed Answered". Ignore that, it's stupid software.

rob day

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The lines are present in the assigned master page and I can select them there

When you select the MP item have you checked if it can be overridden on a page—Pages>Master Pages>Allow Master Item Overrides on Selection should be checked:

Barb Binder

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How do you feel about posting the file on dropbox and sharing a link?

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

joet082964Author

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I can't explain this, but here is what worked:

In this screen shot, I'm on Page 2. I released all items from the master, then click on Line B and moved it down, exposing Line A. I can delete line B, but can not even select Line A.

If I go to Master C and move that same corresponding line - we'll call it Line C. You can plainly see that there is only one line on the master in that position.

Then go back to Page 2 ... without touching anything - the "problem child" Line A from the first screen shot, is now gone:

Mike Witherell

Community Expert

Try targeting BOTH pages and then do an over-ride and delete. Your screen shot shows only the right page targeted.

Mike Witherell

joet082964Author

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Thanks Michael - did that.

Mike Witherell

Community Expert

What does Preferences > General say about Object Editing? Prevent selection is on or off?

Mike Witherell

joet082964Author

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After more testing, here is more odd detail:

Here is the Master page screen shot with the pages and layers panels open. It is difficult to see, but the white horizontal lines are the ones in question.

After overriding master items, I can delete the light blue background and the white horizontal lines, but even after I do that, another set of the horizontal lines remain - but only on a left side page.

Here is a screen shot of a newly added spread, after overriding master items on both pages, then selecting all and deleting. You can see that 4 horizontal lines on the left page remain even though I selected and deleted the same 4 lines that were released from the master. I can't even select the remaining lines.

vinny38

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Hi

just a guess...

Barb Binder

Community Expert

We overlapped responses, Vinny, but that's my thought as well.

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

Jeff Witchel, ACI

Community Expert

Hmm, Interesting thought Jane. I wonder if the lines are on a Master that's Based On another Master.

jane-e

Community Expert

Hi Jeff,

That was my thought, too! We also need to see the Pages panel screen shot—I forgot to say that.

~ Jane

jane-e

Community Expert

Several screen shots, as Jeff ask for—including each Master with the Layers panel and the problem page with the layers panel.

Are you deleting the lines on one page or many pages? You might want to think about applying a child master based on the parent master that does not have the lines if you are doing it more than once.

Jeff Witchel, ACI

Community Expert

Can you post a screenshot?

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