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October 15, 2025
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Copy-paste into a primary text frame?

  • October 15, 2025
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I have a number of sources where I'm pulling information and do not want to do the tedious File>Place then edit down.

The copy-paste seems only reserved for regular text frames or overriding the parent; I don't want this option since updates to the parent won't carry through.  

Is there another option I'm missing?  

Correct answer Eugene Tyson

Still an issue after another restart.  Just adding text boxes per page, added pages for continuation seems to pick it up fine though.


@MaradrX  I think where things might be going sideways is in how you’re using your Parent Frames. Usually, you only want one primary text frame per Parent Page. The rest of the elements up there should really just be running headers, footers, folios, and any page decoration or numbering.

 

When you start working with your actual content, you override that primary frame once on the first live page, then thread your text from page to page (or use Smart Text Reflow). That way, the structure and position of the text frames still come from the Parent Page. If you later adjust margins or resize the parent text frame, those changes will flow through all the threaded pages automatically, as long as you haven’t manually resized or moved the live-page frames.

 

If you instead paste text directly into multiple separate text boxes, you’re effectively detaching them from the parent system. That’s why any later updates on the Parent Page don’t carry through you’ve broken the link.

 

As @BobLevine  mentioned, InDesign’s behaviour here is absolutely by design, and once you work with it rather than around it, it becomes very predictable. And @Mike Witherell  and @davecourtemanche  are spot on too the workflow really shines when you plan your parent setup before loading in the text.

 

Changing layout structure midway is always possible, but it’s a bit like trying to move the foundations after the house is built. It’s worth thinking of it as finishing at the beginning spend the time getting the Parent Pages right first, and everything that follows becomes a breeze.

 

Hope that clears up what’s happening it’s not a bug or an oversight, just InDesign doing exactly what it’s meant to. Once you get used to threading and working with Parents, it all clicks beautifully into place.

 

 

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Participant
October 18, 2025

Instead of manually using File > Place, use linked content or Data Merge. This works like your site’s dynamic content—updates in the source automatically appear, saving time and keeping everything consistent.

emma elizabeth
BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 19, 2025

Once done in a data merge it's done. There's no link back to the data source. Additionally, the OP would be looking at way more time than it's worth to set up. And what site's dynamic content are you referring to.

 

Your post reads like something that ChatGPT would come up with using lousy sources. We're always happy to have new contributors here, but if you're going to do it, please do it with your own knowledge and experience not AI generated nonsense.

Mike Witherell
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 16, 2025

A subtlety that many miss is that if you override the text frame from parent to local page, you have to be careful not to move it--even a little bit, or else the update-ability of the parent to the override item will not seem to work.

Mike Witherell
BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 17, 2025

I mentioned that to the OP multiple times and it just doesn't seem to be getting through. But the object styles is also a great idea.

Mike Witherell
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 16, 2025

Although I'm still confused by what maradr really wants, and I'm confused by his statement that updating the parent page doesn't affect the live pages...  It seems to become a guessing game of "if I mistakenly do this and misunderstand the purpose of that, how can I get to an outcome I'm having a hard time describing that I really want?"

 

Without directly seeing what your file contains, such is the limitations of this online forum.


Maybe this thought will help:

 

Did you know you can make Object Styles for text frames that define height and width and where on the page the frame sits?

Mike Witherell
MaradrXAuthor
Known Participant
October 16, 2025

If you override the text on the page, the parent page no longer seems to update for the first page.  Adding pages after for overflow seems to work with them just fine - but not the first one where you did the override.

 

"Did you know you can make Object Styles for text frames that define height and width and where on the page the frame sits?" 

Yes, works well on the first setup and launching into it from there.

davecourtemanche
Inspiring
October 15, 2025

You can just unlock the primary text frame on the page you're working on to paste the text. If you update other items on the parent page at a later time, those will carry over. Command + Shift click (Mac) on the primary text box to unlock only that.

MaradrXAuthor
Known Participant
October 15, 2025

yeah, unlocking that primary text frame then overrides the parent page - so if I go back and change I'll need to change each individually

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2025

I don't think so. If all you do is override it and paste into it, it should still be tied to the parent for anything you didn't override. So, if you change the size or position, the live pages should follow.

 

I haven't needed to do that with text frames in ages, so give it a try.

Mike Witherell
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2025

Hi Maradr,

Not sure what you are asking. If you copy text from anywhere and paste in InDesign, it immediately makes a text frame. What are you wishing it would do?

Mike Witherell
MaradrXAuthor
Known Participant
October 15, 2025

I've already established primary text boxes for header and body text to be integrated.  A simple copy-paste puts the text into a new text box... I don't want to recreate, resize, add more flow text boxes, etc., I want to work with the primary that is there already.  Is there really no way to copy-paste into a primary text box?

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2025

No, there's not, and nor should there be. You could just drag out some guides where you want the frame to be and draw it on each page then paste your text in

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2025

You're not missing anything. That's how it works.

MaradrXAuthor
Known Participant
October 15, 2025

That's... not good.  Is there an add-on that fixes this oversight?

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2025

Not good? Why not?

What's the point of parent items if you can just select them without an override?