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December 14, 2022
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Creating eBooks with InDesign Course/Textbook etc - any recommendations?

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Hi folks

 

I'm already fairly adept with using InDesign to create print and digital resources, but a client asked me this week if I could offer eBook versions of some titles.

 

In a previous project I tried exporting from InDesign as an ePub to see how it turned out, and the eBook was a mess, with things all over the place and I realised I would need to learn more about how to prepare and export books with this in mind.

 

I've searched for a course (e.g. on LinkedIn learning) or other resource which sets this out simply and clearly but apart from a chapter in a book on Book Design, I've yet to find anything that gives me the framework of understanding and technique to confidently offer this to clients.

 

I wonder if anyone knows of reliable resource that will help get me up to speed with creating ePubs using InDesign?

 

Many thanks!
Richard

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Correct answer James Gifford—NitroPress

As you've discovered, reliable info is hard to find — maybe harder than you realize, since a lot of very plausible, seemingly quality resources are either horribly out of date or take very idiosyncratic approaches, but like biting into a bad egg, you don't really know that until you're there. (Always look for dates on posts and tutorials, if there even are any. Two years is getting feeble and probably irrelevant to current practices.)

 

The e-book world has yet to quite mature, and not only are there many different 'factions' in the game, but most are opposed if not hostile, and — worst of all — no one ever takes down or updates old material. (Don't be surprised if you find dates six to ten years back... which is completely obsolete.) There are very shiny, easy, cheerful tutorial/how-tos out there that may as well begin by telling you to stoke up your steam boiler. (I kid but little.)

 

But the stable, professional approach is easily doable now, which is good.

 

There are two phases to producing quality, robust EPUBs from InDesign. One is all the basics, and courses such as Derek suggest are a good start on those, especially since you indicate you're a training course kind of user. (Not everyone is; I'm in the "hand me the manual and leave me alone" camp on most things. 🙂 )

 

But most courses take a very generic, vanilla, simple approach to books and don't get into the real complexities of EPUB and Kindle; like many of the online gurus who boast they've done 500 books, it and they stop at fairly simple novel/flowing narrative content. Which is barely even Step 1 unless you're going to do nothing else.

 

For textbooks, reference manuals, any anything with a more complex layout (images, tables, foot and end notes, etc.), there are not many solid references. Well... other than mine. 🙂 And I'm always happy to answer specific questions or help work through EPUB development kinks.

 

If you have all the related experience (e.g. you aren't new to either ID or book layout) you should be able to master the basics in a few days and turn any of your titles on hand into a reasonably clean EPUB. ETA: you may find this post useful.

 

What kind of books are you generally looking to produce, for this client and others?

 

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James Gifford—NitroPress
James Gifford—NitroPressCorrect answer
Legend
December 14, 2022

As you've discovered, reliable info is hard to find — maybe harder than you realize, since a lot of very plausible, seemingly quality resources are either horribly out of date or take very idiosyncratic approaches, but like biting into a bad egg, you don't really know that until you're there. (Always look for dates on posts and tutorials, if there even are any. Two years is getting feeble and probably irrelevant to current practices.)

 

The e-book world has yet to quite mature, and not only are there many different 'factions' in the game, but most are opposed if not hostile, and — worst of all — no one ever takes down or updates old material. (Don't be surprised if you find dates six to ten years back... which is completely obsolete.) There are very shiny, easy, cheerful tutorial/how-tos out there that may as well begin by telling you to stoke up your steam boiler. (I kid but little.)

 

But the stable, professional approach is easily doable now, which is good.

 

There are two phases to producing quality, robust EPUBs from InDesign. One is all the basics, and courses such as Derek suggest are a good start on those, especially since you indicate you're a training course kind of user. (Not everyone is; I'm in the "hand me the manual and leave me alone" camp on most things. 🙂 )

 

But most courses take a very generic, vanilla, simple approach to books and don't get into the real complexities of EPUB and Kindle; like many of the online gurus who boast they've done 500 books, it and they stop at fairly simple novel/flowing narrative content. Which is barely even Step 1 unless you're going to do nothing else.

 

For textbooks, reference manuals, any anything with a more complex layout (images, tables, foot and end notes, etc.), there are not many solid references. Well... other than mine. 🙂 And I'm always happy to answer specific questions or help work through EPUB development kinks.

 

If you have all the related experience (e.g. you aren't new to either ID or book layout) you should be able to master the basics in a few days and turn any of your titles on hand into a reasonably clean EPUB. ETA: you may find this post useful.

 

What kind of books are you generally looking to produce, for this client and others?

 

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    craftycurateAuthor
    Inspiring
    September 5, 2023

    Hi James

     

    Apologies for very delayed reply - I realise I don't have email notifications turned on for the Adobe forum, so I have only seen your post today.

     

    I have 10+ years experience with InDesign and maybe 4 with book design, so hoping I can adapt to additional requirements fairly quickly.

     

    My potential eBook book projects are mostly fairly text-heavy, with some media content throughout, but would like the skillset to produce more media rich titles and more less text-heavy content too.

    Thanks for your helpful comments and I will check our your own title.

    Thanks

    Richard

    James Gifford—NitroPress
    James Gifford—NitroPress
    Legend
    September 5, 2023

    Happy to help. You are probably right at the center of the audience for my book; it assumes some experience and skills and starts at an intermediate level, with some intro stuff as needed. 

     

    The key, really, is some mastery of CSS style management. With that, ID can do amazing things in the e-book space, including complex layouts some will say can't be done. 🙂

     

    Ask away as you hit hurdles. 

      Derek Cross
      Community Expert
      Derek CrossCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      December 14, 2022

      The term eBooks is a generic name for digital publications, each has advantages and disadvantages. The three common formats are PDF (easy to produce), Reflowable ePub (difficult to produce), used for text-heavy books such as novels and FXL ePub (fairly easy to produce, but they may be difficult to distribute and there might be issues with reading software) they ares used for illustrated books, such as children's picture books.

      The Linkedin Learning tutorial: "InDesign CC to EPUB" by Anne-Marie Concepción is excellent. 

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