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Inspiring
November 22, 2023
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Embed joboptions file in PDF export like in Distiller

  • November 22, 2023
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So I've just learned Distiller has an option to embed the joboptions file used to create it into a PDF distilled from a PostScript file.

 

What I can't find is a method to accomplish this when exporting PDFs directly from other Adobe apps like InDesign. (Every web search tells me how to embed fonts or install the file.)

 

I've used a joboptions file created in Distiller that has the option "Save Adobe PDF settings inside PDF file" (Advanced tab) checked on. (This is the option that works when distilling from PS.) I've also tried editing the line in the joboptions file " /EmbedJobOptions true" to the same effect.

 

Because it would be extremely useful to have this option (which, I assume, is why Adobe included it in Distiller). But no, I'm not exporting my layouts to flattened EPS files to run them through Distiller just to get this function.

 

(And just to be clear, no, I'm not interested in a scripting solution that attaches the joboptions file to the exported PDF after the fact.)

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JR Boulay
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Community Expert
January 18, 2024

"Because it would be extremely useful to have this option (which, I assume, is why Adobe included it in Distiller)."

In fact it wouldn't be very useful because PDF/X standards don't support attachments in PDFs.

In your case, the most productive would be to create an Action (Action Wizard) in Acrobat Pro that would analyze the PDFs using the Preflight verification profiles. So you would quickly know if the PDF is compliant or not.

 

 

Acrobate du PDF, InDesigner et Photoshopographe
Inspiring
January 18, 2024
quoteIn fact it wouldn't be very useful because PDF/X standards don't support attachments in PDFs.

 

Yes, there is that. Hadn't considered it is an attachment.

 

I can (and do) test any PDF against a set of spec's. (I don't use the Acrobat default preflights. I write my own.)

 

I was given a .joboptions file, from a print vendor, that I was instructed to use for files submitted to them that does attach the file. (It was in reading this spec that I discovered the option.) It does not create a PDF/X-compatible file (clearly). I can create a preflight that checks all the criteria their .joboptions file creates (it's not that much, actually) but it cannot verify that it was their joboptions file that was used. (It's actually very generic.) Which is why I'm assuming their profile embeds itself.

 

In my case, I get questions like, "why is my color different?" or "where is my logo?" and when I test them against our press standards (that I write) the PDF "passes" because there's nothing in it that would affect printing. When I ask, "I don't know what happened, how did you export your PDF?" they insist they used the PDF export settings I gave them and that they did not modify them. When I use their same design files and same settings I do not get their same results — it works when I do it.

 

So I'm looking for the actual settings they used to create the file: did they change the Output Intent? Did they use a different color profile or resolution? Did they turn on compression? 

 

"It goes in the square hole." At the end of the day, it does not really matter if the file is a rectangle, a triangle, a circle, etc. as long as it meets the requirements of the "hole" you're putting it in. But when someone wants to know, was this cut on a lathe? With a jigsaw? Why is my circle coming out as an arch? It doesn't matter if it all fits in the square hole, we want to troubleshoot how that file was created.

 

This may be a moot point, as the direction we're moving in removing humans from generating the PDFs, and having the whole process automated (Switch, Pitstop). This is a much better use of our time than instructing every new designer on why they can't just use "High Quality Print."

Community Expert
January 6, 2024

I've been playing around with Distiller and I turned on all the options etc. 

Is this what you're after?

 

 

Just curious - as it's just attaching the .joboptions to the file.

Not sure why a script wouldn't suffice for you?

You probably have a good reason but we don't know what this is so I'm guessing your only option is to request it as a feature request through the links provided earlier. 

 

If a script would do maybe one of the scripters on the forum could assist you.

Community Expert
January 6, 2024

And I just realised it's because you want to examine the files supplied to you - so sending a script to many people wouldn't be an option. 


leo.r
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January 5, 2024

You mentioned that you're not interested in a scripting solution. Although in this case it's probably the only option. It's probably possible to create a script that will use the "before export" event to automatically save the current job options in InDesign file metadata each time you export a file, which will then be available in the resulting PDF metadata.

Steve Werner
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Community Expert
November 24, 2023

If you're interested specifically in havng that feature in InDesign, here is the User Voice website for such requests:

 

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601021-adobe-indesign-feature-requests

 

Community Expert
November 24, 2023

Not sure why you need it. 

 

Make a feature request

https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

 

Inspiring
January 5, 2024

to answer your question, as a troubleshooting and forensic tool.

 

it's helpful to know who made the PDF and how, using which preset.

 

Because I keep getting asked: "why didn't my PDF come out right? here's the PDF I made..." to which I'm endlessly asking which of the presets we gave them did they use, which they will always insist they've used correctly.

 

And because when a particular vendor messes up file in processing, and they insist it's because we didn't use their export settings, they can be embedded in the file.

 

And because it's available in Distiller, and so should programatically be available in other PostScript/PDF engines.

Community Expert
January 5, 2024

It's an interesting idea.