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May 22, 2024
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Final PDF file has art errors that aren't in the InDesign file

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After exporting 8 different lo-res versions of the interior of a 4-color book, the final send-to-printer PDF file had an issue with several art elements getting mangled. The PDF in question was generated using the same InDesign file as version 8. The only difference was the PDF preset used. The first 8 versions used Smallest File Size, with Crop Marks and Use Document Bleed Settings selected. The final version used Press Quality, again with Crop Marks and Use Document Bleed Settings selected. All of the images affected were flattened TIFF files.

 

This is pretty much the process we follow all the time for books. (Well, maybe not *8* rounds of corrections before final output.) Does anyone have any idea what might have happened? I need to prevent it from happening again. Thank you!

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Correct answer Willi Adelberger

When you have PDFs, place PDF/X-4 and no other flair of PDF into InDesign. Don't convert them to TIFF. Leave them in RGB and convert them to CMYK with final PDF export. Don't flatten transparency. Never use small file size if the file is for print. 

For print use a PDF export to a PDF/X version what the printer requires. 

 

With your workflow what you have described, I would be very surprised to get good quality. 

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leo.r
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Community Expert
May 22, 2024

1. Your versions of InDesign and operating system?

2. Can you please elaborate on "several art elements getting mangled". What exactly happened? Can you provide screenshots of mangled vs. non-mangled art.

Participant
May 22, 2024

Oops! Sorry about that!

InDesign version: 19.4

System/OS: MacBook Pro 2023 / Ventura 13.2.1

Explanation of samples:

Incorrect 1: The star symbol is blurry and the star itself is essentially gone.

Incorrect 2: The red lines disappear almost completely when they cross from being on top of an image to being on top of the background.

Incorrect 3: The star symbol is blurry, the star itself is gone, the yellow text box picked up a border, and the descender in the bottom line of text has blurred into that border.

Every image in the book was built in PowerPoint (I know, don't even get me started). From PowerPoint they were exported to PDF,  and in Photoshop the PDFs were converted from RGB to CMYK, flattened, and saved as TIFFs.  What's really got us stymied is that there are lots of other images with stars, red lines, yellow text boxes, etc., and they exported from InDesign to the final PDF perfectly.

Again, THANK YOU!!!

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
May 22, 2024

All images properly linked and available for the export process?

 

All layers enabled for export in both the Layers pane and the PDF export menu?